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    #46
    Also, of interest, I located the apparent source of the "Eyes of Medusa" comment. It can be attributed to Hitler himself. He said this after viewing Franz von Stuck's portrait of Medusa, painted in 1892. After looking at that painting, Hitler commented "Those are the eyes of my mother."

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      #47
      Craig, I am always amazed at the treasures you turn up!
      Good luck with the auction.
      Steve

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        #48
        Thanks, Panzer! With the new auction format, collectors can now set their own prices for these treasures, instead of paying what might be an arbitrary price set by a dealer. In the future, the more obscure and one-of-a-kind items will find their way to the market using my auction, as I feel it's the fairest way. Also, many have emailed me asking me about the other paintings. These works of art, all signed works, will be available in the September 1 auction. Some are quite good, actually, and a few are by known artists from the period.
        Last edited by Craig Gottlieb; 07-31-2011, 01:35 PM.

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          #49
          Well, on my way to the office to look at a Hitler painting and a Driling shotgun; some locals saw the news story, and called me about it. Came back with their grandfather,who was an officer in the US Army, and who was one of the soldiers who liberated Dachau. More info to follow. While I'm there, I'll also shoot some snapshots of the other paintings, and post them for everyone to see. Reward for anyone who finds one of them in a period photo hanging in the Berghof!

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            #50
            Here are the other paintings. Sorry for the poor images - these were taken on a Sunday afternoon with my Iphone. The eagle is an oil, and the building scene is a pastel or water color.
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              #51
              More. these are both oils. The forest scene depicts two bunkers, one from WWI and one from WWII. The mountain scene seems to be the view from the Berghof, but I could be mistaken.
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                #52
                Last one. This one is very nicely done, and I'm sure it's not difficult to determine what city this is.
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                  #53
                  I will be professionally photographing these tomorrow, and they will be described fully and on the auction website within a week, with very reasonable starting bids. If anybody can identify these in period photos of the Berghof, it would be greatly appreciated.

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                    #54
                    Also, on another thread, someone asked about "brush strokes" and the reporter . . . yes, there are a number of other factors that go toward determining authenticity, but due to the time limits of a 2 minute interview, they weren't all discussed on camera.

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                      #55
                      The paintings just made it into CNN, though I didn't see it:

                      http://www.cbs3springfield.com/story...up-for-auction

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                        #56
                        You say:

                        Currently owned by a family member of the French veteran who liberated them after the war
                        The Americans liberated the place you suggest these were taken from, not the french, do you mean a French soldier serving in the US forces?

                        These are the mother and father of National Socialism.
                        Both Parents were dead before the notion of National Socialism entered Hitlers head, why would you say this ? I believe that both Hitlers Parents graves are still in the same places today, whereas other like the recent case of Hess, have been dug up and cremated then strewn to the wind as to avoid making their graves a shrine for nut-jobs. If these two people were, as you are stating, the Mother and Father of national socialism, then surely their graves would have been long moved ? So this "statement" has come from you, right? and is not echoed at all, in any History book or even mentioned anywhere apart from in your sales description?

                        Please note: the winner of this auction may, at his or her expense, order an evaluation of these paintings by an art historian (preferably someone who works at one of the major museums worldwide), who will confirm that these are indeed the original specimens.
                        Why is this not done before hand? and should the winner get a negative evaluation, are you prepared to refund every cent paid and do interviews before the camera saying how sorry you were for the False alarms and false claims ? And Refund every cent of the Evaluation fees as well, seeing as you are so sure that these are the real thing, creating Hype all over the interweb & press about them.
                        -the inclusion of this last sentence by you is confirmation enough that no Expertise has taken place, and that these have not been scrutinized by Art experts and people trained in Art-Fraud, what i mean, is people who are spezialised in Looking behind the grand descriptions and Provenance and concentrating on the actual item..

                        Last but not least, are there any other examples of important paintings known, as these are claiming to be, that we Knifed out of their frames, and then rolled up to send home ?

                        In ending, you know that this man, was also a very, very good artist .

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                          #57
                          I was under the impression that the French were first to arrive at the Berghof and that the USA were first into the Eagles Nest.

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                            #58
                            I will wait for better pics but I'm not that impressed by the quality. AH being an artlover and still would have these?

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                              #59
                              Originally posted by mr bridger View Post
                              I was under the impression that the French were first to arrive at the Berghof and that the USA were first into the Eagles Nest.
                              All the goodies that have surfaced from there, including Evas underwear, are always underlined with the fact that the 101 Airborne was the first to get their and loot the place. In fact, every Berghof liberated item i have seen so far, always comes with this 101 Airborne story.

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                                #60
                                Of course, "The Mother and Father of National Socialism" is a cute advertising jingle and nothing more. They obviously had nothing to do with the philosophy of socialism, and everyone knows it . . . are you just picking at me?

                                As for the arrival of units, it is known to scholars that units of the 3rd Division arrived there first, the French arrived 4 hour later, and Easy Co, 101st Airborne Division (Band of Brothers) arrived about 16 hours after the Third Division troops arrived.

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