"Adolf Hitler-Strasse" street sign

[Greg]

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The changing of lettering-type is explained in the book: Wall Plaques and Official Signboards of Hitler's Third Reich (1933-1945) by Saris and Gillain. The book with 460 pages covers political and civil sign-boards, newspaper signs etc.
The pages 389 through 394 show some signs with the name of Hitler. There are many variations known.
Also with the Normalschrift the "Ringel-S" was in use. Since spring 1941 it was the regular type of lettering.

This is what I know and have read!

Sounds like a great book, that I need!

Best,
Greg

[luftwaffe blue]

Again, no expert I, but apparently these things were made in a wide variety of versions and lettering.

The period photo here was reportedly taken by a Canadian soldier in 1945, but I don't know what city. The blue sign is from the Berlin Haus der Gesichte site.

Best,
Greg

Nice one, I've learned something, Sean

[willyeksner]

The book is available at www.vdmedien.de
(a publisher in the German Zweibrücken). Have a look at the site from this publisher.

By the way: there is a faker in Europe who fakes lots of signs for years and years and is specialized in (such) signs with rust and actual damages and so on. They are so well-made that one is easily fooled. They even show wheather influences. He pointed out that a few in the earlier mentioned book were from his hand! For years the owner of the signs thought them to be okay!

[Gran Sasso]

Thanks for all that info - any idea what those go for?

[Tobysauer]

Close ups of the damages and rust (of this 100% original sign ):

I used to collect vintage enamel advertising signs and you soon get used to spotting the repro's, this one looks good to me

[Serge M.]

the rust and damages (exact) are also te be found with fakes. This is how these fakes are being made.

After my initial comment I have to say that I do now have some reservations on Gran Sasso's AH street sign.
Here is another interesting thread:
http://70.87.163.50/forums/showthread.php?t=253283
Note what Bob Coleman says on post 15.

I compared the damage to my original (I know everyone says that but this one came from the G.I. who's job was to remove them. - He brought this one home), and they should be 'black' as Bob points out. The enamel should be thick. The white enamel stands out and is above the blue background.

-wagner-

[Serge M.]

[Serge M.]

[Serge M.]

On the reverse the enamel is solid and also thick. It should not peel as shown
in Gran Sasso's example. The backs of these signs are always better in condition than the exposed obverse.





another test....

[willyeksner]

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I have looked at the site: the price is 59,90 euro (shipping-costs come extra).

[Gran Sasso]

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I have looked at the site: the price is 59,90 euro (shipping-costs come extra).

Thanks - but I meant the price for a sign like this...

[Thorsten B.]

The thickness of metal and enamel of these enamel signs is not dependent on the time of production (except for really thick ones representing the earliest period of use of enamel signs from about 1880-1910 - called in german collector scene "Zuckerguss-Emaille" / sugarcoated ones)

but dependent on the factory which produced them.

Still in the TR period there were at least about 40-50 different firms in the Reich offering and producing enamel signs for all kinds of purposes.

Gran Sasso´s example is a nice original piece from the period - I see no issues with it.

[John T]

I like the sign posted..some of the signs are even maker marked in tiny letters. As for the rust on the back Wagner it could be rust that was caused after the war due to how the sign had been stored. Now, the modern signs are made in the Czech Republic--and who knows where else, I saw one marked, "Produced for Use in Motion Pictures" or something like that, I guess to get around the factory bosses questioning of, "why are these guys making Hitler signs" or perhaps to get around laws.

Like a train eagle, these to the US soldiers were desirable souvenirs, but the signs I think are much rarer for some reason.

As for the value of your sign I think 50 to 60 euros

[John T]

Here is one of my signs...I think possibly a copy:

[Thorsten B.]

Eerm - that´s one of a tiny piece.

Nice copy indeed.

But apart from that I value an original one like Gran Sasso´s example higher than just 60 Euros - I wouldn´t offer it for less than 200 Euros.