SA Reserve tab, dark green, yellow thread

[Doug Kenwright]

Gents, is there any significance to an SA tab from a reserve Standarte having yellow chain stitching instead of white? The tab's numbers are 21/R54

I have another steel green collar tab from a reserve Sturm that is stitched in white.The numbers on this one are R21/62

No pics at the moment unfortunately..

[sgstandard]

Tabs

What color is the one with yellow chain-stitching?

[laurens]

Reserve-Standarte 54 was from SA-Gruppe Nordsee. Nordsee used goldon buttons, devices etc. So that must be the case. Yellow for Goldon.

Standarte 62 was from Nordsee too.

Why one white lettering, and the other yellow? I don't know,but you see it more often.

[wewelsburg]

Different color stitching was used early on too.

[sgstandard]

Tabs

I've never heard of the SA tab numbers specifically matching the button color, except maybe Marine-SA. I checked all the early color charts I have, and no mention of green tabs with yellow numbers. Green tabs with black numbers were used early on. Erich B. would probably know. Maybe he'll weigh in.

[sgstandard]

Tabs

I've never heard of the SA tab numbers specifically matching the button color, except maybe Marine-SA. I checked all the early color charts I have, and no mention of green tabs with yellow numbers. Green tabs with black numbers were used early on. Erich B. would probably know. Maybe he'll weigh in.

[wewelsburg]

GOT IT!! Early on in the 1933 list, gruppe OSTSEE and 2 of its subgroups Pommern Ost and Pommern West had green tabs with yellow numbers.BUT you will have to check if the numbers match for this Gruppe,on early tabs its hard to get that info,as standards etc werent as organised and many gruppes shared numbers etc.Whether there was a Reserve54 in gruppe Ostsee at teh time needs to be looked at.
And no numbers were not coordinated to buttons ever.

[Erich B.]

That was the only yellow numbered tab I could find a reference to, but it would likely have been apple green rather than dark green (although the regulations don't mention the shade of green). Otherwise I don't find a match for dark green/yellow embroidery. The other possibility is that the tab is discolored to the point that the white embroidery looks yellow?
Erich

[sgstandard]

Tab

I agree with Erich that it was likely Apple green they were referring to. Early 1933 color charts for Pommern are no different than 1934 charts.

[wewelsburg]

yeah it was teh only green/yellow combo I could find.

[Doug Kenwright]

O.k..got the 'ole scanner back up ..here is a pic of the two tabs..a little bit late getting back to the party..

[Doug Kenwright]

inside...better view of non UV light touched threads..the colour is a cross between apple and yellow..

[Doug Kenwright]

I have adjusted the colour to closer match the way it looks in 'real life' by tweaking the hue a tad..

[Erich B.]

In these scans IMO it's just discolored--I think the embroidery was white or off white when new.
Erich

[Doug Kenwright]

Hi Erich..it's yellow, make no mistake..it's not discoloured white.

I will attempt to get a shot in natural light with the non UV exposed threads from the inside..clearly yellow..