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[laurens]

Hi Erich,

Thanks for your input. You're right about the plain tuch shoulderstraps wich were introduced in 1939. My problem though is still that they have to be worn by all the others? Who are all the others?

The shoulderboards described in II/2 are the second pattern shoulderboards with 'Waffenfarbe' underlay. They talk about Schulterstuck rather than Schulterklappen, and the description is clear enough. In fact the shoulderboard pictured at pag. 209 of Cloth Insignia with the two pips is a Wehrmannschaften shoulderboard.

Collar tabs for enlisted men and NCO were piped in yellow or white artificial silk, Sturmführer and above piped in silver or gold.

The unit designation is in flatstich instead of 'Körbelstickung'.

Best Laurens

[Erich B.]

Hello Laurens,
The 'all others' would be any Wehrmänner who were not leaders or leader-Anwärter in the Wehrmannschaft.
Erich

[Pascal Bernhard]

Will tell as soon as the item is at home...

Item at home nice original SA-Wehrmann "Bergrock" ,

Wehrmann Shoulderstraps organic to the tunic, pink collar tabs restored, one can see traces of the removed pair, but nevertheless a nice tunic !
(where today do you find original period sewn on insignia ?)

[laurens]

It's a great tunic Pascal! Fits very well in your Wehrmannschaft-collection!

[Pascal Bernhard]

It's a great tunic Pascal! Fits very well in your Wehrmannschaft-collection!

Thanks Laurens

[laurens]

Hello Laurens,
The 'all others' would be any Wehrmänner who were not leaders or leader-Anwärter in the Wehrmannschaft.
Erich

Hi Erich, I'm afraid it's a bit more complicated. The shoulderboards discussed at II/a) are for SA-men who are in the Wehrmannschaft, and Führer of the Wehrmannschaft.

II/b) SA-Führer-Anwärter= Indication (Bezeichnung) still under discussion.
I think this SA-Führer-Anwärter isn't a normal SA-Anwärter , but more likely a Nachwuchsführer.

II/c) All the others= Still a question to me.

Best Laurens

[Rich Moran]

Is it possible to see an image of the white ink/paint stamp seen in the interior shot of the tunic..or is that the trousers? I have a SA trouser that has one of these but the ink/paint is gone to time and would like to understand what this should look like.

thanks for your help!

[Pascal Bernhard]

Is it possible to see an image of the white ink/paint stamp seen in the interior shot of the tunic..or is that the trousers? I have a SA trouser that has one of these but the ink/paint is gone to time and would like to understand what this should look like.

thanks for your help!

Here-with an other thread with similar fabric markings

-RZM fabric agreement stamp.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=435558

P.

[volkssturmmann]

SA wehrmannschaften uniforms

I may have posted this last year, not sure, but can some one who does have a SA wehrmannschaften (enlisted) help me with some indebt photos for research, photos of inside of tunic, etc . . . Would help me a lot! I have photos from the militaria sites of wehrmann rocks but need some good photos and measurements.

[Pascal Bernhard]

SA Wehrmann tunic fakes? did something like this exist ?
originals are more common to find than a fake
Nobody want SA-Wehrmann stuff ! have a look on the relic hunter site, he has currently a nice SA-Wehrmann tunic for sale since... don't remember when...