SA kepi on e-stand

[Erich B.]

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=432573

Did anyone see this kepi? It has been listed and sold, but it certainly looks questionable to me.
Erich

[SLIM]

i am not an expert on sa kepi but i would not want this one in my collection

[Darin S.]

Woah. I sort of know the buyer. Hope for him it's an okay item.

[luftwaffe blue]

Hmmm I have the same doubts too from those pics. Sean

[Pascal Bernhard]

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[yesthatsme]

Hey guys
Thanks for the heads up I just email jayfuson on the refund will let you guys know???

[Erich B.]

Yes, please keep us posted.
Erich

[laurens]

100% fake.

[sgstandard]

Kepi

I don't like it at all, and if LAURENS doesn't like it , then I REALLY don't like it.

[yesthatsme]

Kepi was shipped back to jayfuson Monday afternoon, dealer has been understanding and great to deal with I will let you know once I recieve a refund.

[Wallace]

Perhaps it is a good idea to point out what is exactly wrong with it so others know what to look for.

[luftwaffe blue]

Perhaps it is a good idea to point out what is exactly wrong with it so others know what to look for.

The kepi appears mint apart from the side "supposed" sweatmark, the NSDAP 1933 markings are IMO bunkum.
The sweatband also.
These new kepis seem to be around Ebay alot lately seemingly being sold out of Austria

[Erich B.]

Here's a partial list of concern areas that I had noted in corresponding with the seller. And I should point out that he had no idea that the kepi was not an original piece.

"Here are some of the problem areas:
1. The cotton twill is the wrong color and wrong weave for a kepi of this period.
2. The red wool band is the wrong weave and the appearance of the nap is not correct.
3. The proportions are wrong--the height vs. width vs. visor size vs. height of the flaps are off. The regulations were certainly not always followed to the letter when kepis were made, but they have a certain appearance that you expect to see and this one is proportioned like an Austrian or other copy.
4. The visor angle is wrong.
5. Inside--except for high ranking kepis, the cotton ones are almost never lined on the sides. Some of the earliest kepis are lined, but generally it's with the tan or rust thin cotton.
6. The way the outer fabric comes up and meets the lining material on the sides is unlike any kepi construction I can remember seeing.
7. It looks like the sides of the kepi are made of dark cardboard--I've seen cardboard used in very early and very late kepis, but not one of this mid period.
8. The sweatband is too thick and appears possibly to have been resewn--I believe I can see some extra holes just above the bottom stitch line on the outside of the cap.
9. The construction of the lining at the top side edges is not a normal method of assembly.
10. The side buttons should not be pebbled or metal colored. (Note--this one does not have pebbled buttons, but smooth bare metal chinstrap buttons).
11. The NSDAP and 1933 stamps under the sweatband make no sense. SA material was not marked this way and the style of kepi is later than 1933.
There may be more aspects that show the kepi to be a fake with 99%+ certainty, but this will give you a better idea."

Erich

[SLIM]

when i first saw this kepi the size / fabric bothered me then i scrolled up through the fotos and there was that poor nsdap stamping , i dont much like the eagle either to be honest .

[yesthatsme]

Hey Guys,
Jayfuson has issued refund with paypal and should clear within 3 to 4 days. I believe it was an honest mistake dealer has keeped me in the loop from the start and has been the best customer service I have "EVER" dealt within our community.....
Jayfuson memtioned that kepi was purchased from manions as an original....

Thanks to all