Hitler Jugend leader ring

[Schelberg]

Lots of years ago with this one.
They told me It was a HJ ring for leader / boss of the organization.
I hardly see the markings, with a glass seems to be an 800 (the smallest). The largest is no visible. I'd like to know if original and if really HJ.
Could anyone let me know the value too?
Thanks in advance

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last one. thanks

[Schelberg]

btt. Could the other marking, the largest, be "Ges. Gesch" (patented) ?
I have no idea... Any opinion will be appreciated very much.
Has anyone a ring like this?
Thanks in advance.

[Bob Hritz]

I have seen these all over the internet:

http://www.militaryissue.com/product...category=Units

Bob Hritz

[Wolf100]

Surely it is a fake. Just look at the fault line in the middle of the ring going through the whole ring on the inner side.

[Schelberg]

Hello, thanks for your replies
The example I'm presenting is very different from the example seen in internet by B. Hritz.
Is there any other opinion? The patina looks good for me, and next to this, would anyone put this small markings in a fake piece? I'm sure, but I'd like
to hear other views.
Thanks again you all for your help

[SLIM]

this one looks as if it could be real...i like it

http://www.philipp-militaria.com/art...1935-5284.html

[Schelberg]

Is there anyone that has a ring like the one I've posted?
Thanks again

[Wolf100]

The ring is molded. Even the stamps are molded in. The details are soft and mushy and not even close to an original one. Philipp´s ring is also a clear fake.

[Wolf100]

Here are pics of an 1000% original with the originals stamps. If you´re not blind, you´ll see the difference !!!!!!

[checkit]

Reddick sells these for $59.