Collar Tab Help

[miken]

Picked these up from a small collection I bought. Don't know what they are really, not my field. Can anyone enlighten me. They look unissued.
Thanks
Mike
I would like to put on Estand but don't know what they are worth.

[miken]

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[rlimike]

Collar Tab Help

They look like an unissued set of tabs for a Gau Oberfehisleiter. If these are not repo they are quite expensive & scarce.Hope this info. helps you out.

Mike

[Mark Costa]

These are in fact REICH Level tabs (gold piping) not gau level tabs (red piping) , for the rank of Oberbefehlsleiter in the NSDAP Political leaders rank. There were only a handful of men that held this rank at the Reich level and these indeed are very rare -- if original.

Mark Costa

[miken]

Thanks guys for the info. What dose Oberbefehlsleiter mean in english?
Knowing where I got them I'm sure they are original IMO.
Thanks MIke

[Z19]

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I would like to put on Estand but don't know what they are worth.

Bottom line on price is this, do you want to sell them or hold onto em like most dealers?? You will find ridiculous prices on these tabs, BUT they sit there and never sell. Alex

[rlimike]

collar tab help

I stand corrected , Mark is correct about them being Reich level not Gau level.

Mike

[sgstandard]

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OBER-BEFEHLSLEITER = Senior Command Leader. These tabs are from the Reichsleitung level, as previously stated. At the Reichsleitung level, only 2 ranks are higher; HAUPT-BEFEHLSLEITER, and REICHSLEITER (the highest).
Foe what it's worth, the tab backing looks A-OK. Because of the rarity, you have to automatically question whether the devices are original to the tabs. I'm NOT saying there's anything wrong with them, and they seem to be OK. Just a note of caution.

[Mainemilitaria]

Miken,
Check "Uniforms of NSDAP" website for price guidelines.....he has a pair with the RZM metal tag just like these.....however, specialized site with specialized prices.

I'd agree that this price is "on the astronomical" side.....certianly not anywhere near what I'd pay if I wanted a pair.....but it does give some idear of the rarity.
Realistically.....I say around "half"......maybe alittle more......would be a fair cash value (but I might use his figures as a "Trade" value!).

The tabs look good to me....I can remember when you'd have been lucky to get $200.00 for these!
John G.

[Erich B.]

Muster sets like this are very difficult to find. This would have been a set that was used as a 'model' by a manufacturer. I would say they're worth around $1500.00.
Erich

[miken]

Thanks for all the good info.
Mike

[Bob Coleman]

A wonderful set of RZM probe tabs. The aluminum disc is the inventory number. A manufacturer would submit a sample of every item they would make in duplicate to the Reichszugmeiterei. One approved set was retained in the RZM Hauptamt in Munich and the other returned to the manufacturer as an approved sample. A very nice collectable pair of collar tabs.

[Jeff Clark]

Probe tags are very rare, most all mine came from a long time collector who spent years/decades gathering them. He sold out to one of the big 3 dealers; I wanted them for my book and paid accordingly.
You see a few of these come up for sale every now and then, but they are not common. This would be a very specialized area of interest, so market for them is not huge.

[Erich B.]

Wouldn't this be a Muster rather than a Probe? I understood that the Muster was a pattern piece, and a Probe would be created due to a change in material, design, or manufacturing method.
Erich

[Jeff Clark]

RZM Standardmuster pair of tabs to be precise, but most guys seem to call them probe tabs.