The Blood Flag

[oldflagswanted]

contribution of a nice clear photo I own
Blutfahne
LAH Standarte
back ground with Munich II, Munich
[and]
further details
from my history this flag is gone
burned, shredded from the allies when in Munich
the Braunes Haus was getting bombed.

RH:
Great parade photo, thanks for the look. Especially
nice to see your closer views of the BF parts, although
views showing the small eagles on same are even rarer.
Likewise, I agree with your final BF fate assessment, even
though some folks cling to the hidden away as intact myth.

[Robert H]

I heard once some 3 or 4 BF are hidden, don't know from who or where.
But I heard often its destroyed, even from "ïnsiders"

[Dietrich Maerz]

I heard once some 3 or 4 BF are hidden, don't know from who or where.

You read this most likely at MFF. They regularly discuss this and it is like Kaiser Barbarossa sitting in the Kyffhaeuser waiting to come back in old glory! Some old faithfull will have it hidden away like Guinevra hid Excalibur under her bed in the soke monastry! Oh, the romantic!

[oldflagswanted]

Hope springs eternal, etc...

You read this most likely at MFF. They regularly discuss this
and it is like Kaiser Barbarossa sitting in the Kyffhaeuser
waiting to come back in old glory! Some old faithfull will have
it hidden away like Guinevra hid Excalibur under her bed in
the soke monastry! Oh, the romantic!

DM:
Very interesting. I enjoyed the surviving BF reference in
the "Hitler Diaries", and such as found elsewhere - i.e.,
Hitler survived in his Nazi Antarctica Flying Saucer Base.
OFW
(below) Still awaiting the BF survives edition of ...

[Robert H]

Dietrich, the MFF when this one is getting blasted
The education there is down -0

[Br. James]

Robert offers something I've never heard before: "I heard once some 3 or 4 BF are hidden, don't know from who or where." Three or four Blood Flags?! Now that is really interesting...it's almost like the Residenzstrasse was carpeted with swaz banners!

Br. James

[Tony T-S]

Of course the BF was rescued, it's in Tibet with Hitler in the underground Monastery he's been living in.

[oldflagswanted]

will the real BF please stand up ??? part 3

Robert offers something I've never heard before: "I heard once
some 3 or 4 BF are hidden, don't know from who or where." Three
or four Blood Flags?! Now that is really interesting...it's almost like
the Residenzstrasse was carpeted with swaz banners!
Br. James

Part 1, my post #31:
"It is not inconceivable that the so called "9 Nov 1923 Blood Flag"
was/is a total fabrication. Most 1923 nazi flag photos show odd
size and configuration swastika flags, few if any that appear with
a mobile swastika and in heraldic proportions.

Part 2, my post #33:
"The BF was per the NSDAP Hauparchiv the flag of the Munich 5th
SA Company, carried by the 6th Company on 9 Nov 1923 - that fact
alone is rather perplexing? I have yet to see any pre-putsch or
during the event photos showing this SA flag that became the BF.
Thus some healthy skepticism about the origins of same is not
unfounded IMO. Even NSDAP officials for some time denied
Trambauer's wife claim that he carried the BF on 9 Nov 1923, as
he was a known to be beerhall drunk."

Part 3, this post #173:
Based on the above, it is not inconceivable that multiple BF's were
made. However, having said that, I would also think at least one
would have shown up by now. IMO, more likely the multiple
example senario may stem from post war fakes being created,
as happens with all super rare militaria.
OFW
(below) Post WW2 made BF pole tops ...

[Br. James]

Thanks, OFW; always helpful. The look of the BF, as it was presented and trooped in the 1930s and beyond, has always troubled me, though I couldn't put my finger on why I thought that way, until your latest note. Your statement that "Most 1923 nazi flag photos show odd size and configuration swastika flags, few if any that appear with a mobile swastika and in heraldic proportions." As I have appreciated the historic photos of generic swaz flags as they was carried in public before and after the Putsch, the swaz was often rendered as static instead of mobile, and the swaz itself in many flags was usually skinny as compared with the standardized and well-proportioned examples from the late 1920s and forward. Also, the BF was supposedly hand-made and presented to its SA regiment just before it was first trooped during the Putsch, yet the banner we see in post-Putsch photos appears as a mobile symbol rendered in proportions akin to those which did not come into being until the late 1920s. This continues to be a curious subject, and I suppose it may just be that what was presented post-Putsch as the "Blut Fahne" was actually created according to the developing flag standards coming together at that time...?? History made to fit the current needs of the NSDAP!

Br. James