1941 NSKK Pistole Motorgruppe Badge - Opinions

[KC1]

Would like some opinons on this badge to determine authenticity. I have not seen this type badge before and search engine does not seem to have anything like this archived. Many thanks.

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[Guymauve]

Hi
I have one Sudeten 1944 for klein Kaliber Gewehr.
Never seen on period pics or documents too
Cheers

[JoeW]

For some reason, Motorgruppe Oberdonau was a hotbed of firearms training, holding annual contests and issuing badges and awards such as engraved Walther pistols. Don't see any reason to doubt authenticity, unless the Deschler mark should include the city?

[Don Scowen]

I've been trying to research the Motorgruppe Oberdonau shooting badges for a few months now to be included in a book on Austrian shooting badges.

So far I have not been able to find any evidence that suggests that these badges are not genuine. They are well made, using different materials/fixings in different years, (fakers tend to use the same materials & fixings when they make their items ).

The early badges were as illustrated above, a round badge in bronze, silver, gold or gold with oakleaves (the gold finish tends to be lost as can be seen on the one above), & were awarded for attaining a minimum grade in either pistole or KK-Gewehr shooting.

In 1942 & '43 the design was changed to resemble the style of the Reichsberufswettkampf badge, that is a large round badge with a seperate NSKK eagle on it. Also a Meisterschütze badge was added to the group for shooting both weapons.

Here is my cased 1942 KK-Gewehr set.

Cheers
Don

[Don Scowen]

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[KC1]

Like all of you I have no reason, or better yet, see no obvious red flags on the construction of the badge itself. It is very well made and definitely looks to be period done. Appreciate the insight and would love to here more of Don's investigative findings should he learn more from this obvious surreptitious type award.

Here is my cased 1942 KK-Gewehr set

Don - that is a most impressive award case and first I have ever seen of this grouping!!! Best award case I have seen in many years and I am sure a near center piece of your collection. Congratulations on finding this gem and sharing with us.

[Terry OToole]

Don , that book on Austrian shooting badges sounds a must , keep us up to date on it

[JoeW]

Don, that is a superb looking presentation case with awards. Just wonderful.

[Mike Clayton]

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Don, A great cased set!!

[Duzig]

Hello,
Yes Don, just want to agree with the others...quite an impressive set of cased awards. I too have never seen this grouping like this. Quite nice!
regards
Duzig(Bill)

[Don Scowen]

Thank you Gentlemen.

As some of you know I have been spending quite sometime attempting to research the Tiroler Landesschießen & Kreisschießen events. I thought that was hard, these NSKK shoots are even more difficult to uncover.....

Cheers
Don

[Mike Clayton]

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KC1 would you post your Motorgruppe badge on the "NSKK Collector's show your stuff" thread. Don also please post that great cased KK-Gewehr set on there too! That way everyone can enjoy them.

Regards, Mike