I just finished watching the new movie " The Valkyrie" with my friend at a local movie theater today. I noticed that the Nazi People's Court judges wore red gowns with gold eagles on right side of the red gowns near the end of the movie. Judge Roland Freisler wore red gown with red cap that resembled that of a Roman Catholic Cardinal in that movie and another movie " Sophia Scholl" The White Rose movie. Do any red Nazi People's Court judge's gown and red hat survive the war to today? I would like to see the actual red gown and red hat. Any info are appreciated. Thanks!
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Third Reich Judicial Robes
Great Topic! I too have always thought these judges gowns with eagle and swastika were very simple, elegant and packed a visual punch. Yes, a "nazi cardinal", so to speak.
It would be great to see a period color photo of this robe in wear. I'm not sure if one exists. Anyway. I'm with you on this one.
Bob
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From the movie "Sophie Scholl - Die letzten Tage" (2004),
Movie about "Die Weiße Rose" resistance movement from Munich.Attached FilesLast edited by NickG; 01-02-2009, 02:56 AM.
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Great topic--I had wondered if he truly wore red as depicted in film, and now we know. I would have to believe that these Court officials would be entitled to wear the Government Officials uniform off the bench, but that is just speculation on my part.
Here is a German Judges cap of the Third Reich era on a dealer site:Attached FilesNEC SOLI CEDIT
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Originally posted by stonemint View PostThere is a specific name for these caps, I just can't recall it right now.
Originally posted by stonemint View PostGreat topic--I had wondered if he truly wore red as depicted in film, and now we know.
dark red = Reichsgericht
light red = Volksgerichtshof
black with blue facings = Reichspatentamt
black = other courts
This type of system is actually still alive in Germany, see here for contemporary examples of German judges at three different levels of courts (scroll down):
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/judges.htm
This might also be of interest here:
http://www.tenzor.cz/lbsr/dr/mdj/MdJ.html
Originally posted by stonemint View PostI would have to believe that these Court officials would be entitled to wear the Government Officials uniform off the bench, but that is just speculation on my part.
Präsidenten und Vizepräsidenten der Gerichte bis hinab zu den Präsidenten größerer Landgerichte [= Presidents and Vice Presidents of courts down to and including major State Courts]
Oberreichsanwälte [= Chief Reich Attorneys]
Generalstaatsanwälte [= State Attorney Generals]
Leitende Oberstaatsanwälte bei den Landgerichten [= Chief State Attorneys at the State Courts]
See here (Sorry, German Language only):
http://books.google.de/books?id=NoDJ...A290&lpg=PA290
Some info can also be found in John R. Angolia's "In the Service of the Reich"
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Originally posted by HPL2008 View PostIn Germany, these caps have always been referred to by the rather generic term Barrett. [= beret]
Different colors were used by different types of courts. To my knowledge, it broke down like this:
dark red = Reichsgericht
light red = Volksgerichtshof
black with blue facings = Reichspatentamt
black = other courts
This type of system is actually still alive in Germany, see here for contemporary examples of German judges at three different levels of courts (scroll down):
http://www.filibustercartoons.com/judges.htm
This might also be of interest here:
http://www.tenzor.cz/lbsr/dr/mdj/MdJ.html
Indeed, the higher-ranking ones were. This included:
Präsidenten und Vizepräsidenten der Gerichte bis hinab zu den Präsidenten größerer Landgerichte [= Presidents and Vice Presidents of courts down to and including major State Courts]
Oberreichsanwälte [= Chief Reich Attorneys]
Generalstaatsanwälte [= State Attorney Generals]
Leitende Oberstaatsanwälte bei den Landgerichten [= Chief State Attorneys at the State Courts]
See here (Sorry, German Language only):
http://books.google.de/books?id=NoDJ...A290&lpg=PA290
Some info can also be found in John R. Angolia's "In the Service of the Reich"
Thanks for the lead and info, HPL--I wish that book was available in English.
I am surprised we do not see "third reich Judge's robes" for sale--all the fakers have to do is add an eagle.NEC SOLI CEDIT
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Re; Nazi People's Court
Wow!!! My thread on this Nazi court judge's gown and hat finally got many postings after few days after I made this thread. Very interesting to read many postings!!! I never saw any Nazi judge in pictures or in flesh until you guys finally posted some pictures of a actual Third Reich judge's hat. It was actually purple in color not in red I saw in movies. Anyway its very nice to see a actual Nazi-era court judge's hat in pictures that was proved by Stonemint. Unfortunately we are unable to see a actual Nazi People's Court judge's red gown and hat. I assumed that they are destroyed in war. Anyway, Thanks much for breathing life in my thread regarding the Thrid Reich-era judges! Thanks!
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