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    #16
    George, the initials and date on your badge look like they were hand engraved. I've never seen this type of engraving on these badges before. Is there a story behind yours? On the link Ade provided, it does mention that hand engraved examples exist with the thought being that they were replacement badges.
    Richard V

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      #17
      Hi Richard,

      There is no provenance or story connected with my badge. But I have seen pictures of similar hand engraving of other examples. Here is one from Forman's Guide to TR Awards.
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      George

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        #18
        Here's another example from Detlev Niemann's Bewertungs-Katalog (First Edition).
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        George

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          #19
          This is one of the correct and standard versions of this badge.

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            #20
            ah

            Are there just these two types of engraving on the back of the AH badge ? Are all years found with these two patterns of engraving ? Interesting topic .
            jim toncar

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              #21
              George's appears to be hand engraved. How are the other's engraved to achieve such uniformity in the letters and numbers? Also, have there ever been badges found to be authentic with no engraving to the rear?
              Richard V

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                #22
                uniformity

                The "9"s in the "1939" date in both examples (but expecially Forman's) are quite different from each other, IMO. (The Detlev pic is grainy and harder to see....) LIkewise the "3s" to a lesser extent.
                George

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                  #23
                  I think I may have worded my question badly George. What I should have said is that badges that were not hand engraved (like Medics), what method (mechanical of some sort I assume) was used for the engraving that resulted in such uniformity on the badges?
                  Richard V

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                    #24
                    Oh, I see what you mean now. (Unfortunately, if there's ever any way to misunderstand something, I'll manage to do it. )
                    I think that on the other badges they used a process called "rotograving" which used like a miniature router to grind out the numbers. There may have been a form or setting that caused the numbers to be so exactly alike.
                    (I hope I'm right on this, and I would be glad for someone to correct me if I am not.)
                    George

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by George Stimson View Post
                      Oh, I see what you mean now. (Unfortunately, if there's ever any way to misunderstand something, I'll manage to do it. )
                      I think that on the other badges they used a process called "rotograving" which used like a miniature router to grind out the numbers. There may have been a form or setting that caused the numbers to be so exactly alike.
                      (I hope I'm right on this, and I would be glad for someone to correct me if I am not.)
                      George is right - the rotograved examples are so similar that I think we can assume they were done using a template.

                      Impressed numbers were done in a type of moveable type press, where the badge was secured and a machine impressed the numbers. I think it is also safe to assume that the badges were done individually and not automated, since they were not in a series and the numbers jumped around. You can also see a faint circular line around the back of large Gold Party Badges presumably from the number stamping machine.

                      The hand-engraved "A.H." badges are likely to have been done by a single individual either in the Deschler factory or on contract. They are free-hand but look like the same handwriting style, which would explain both the similarity and the slight differences. I see more similarities in the "9" and other letters than differences. The writing style of the dying art of freehand engraving is very personal to the engraver.

                      As a side note, a look at the way the award certificates for the Gold Party Badges were hand filled out also shows that the vast majority (of more than 22,000!) were done by a single individual with a distinctive handwriting style. That is some serious overtime by someone in the NSDAP Treasury Department.

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                        #26
                        That is the proper hand engraving. Original piece.

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