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**Rich Moran** · 08-08-2016, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by Rheinmetall View Post

Rich, that is a very eye-catching tunic. Do you know who was the original wearer? I would think the BO ribbon, if original to the piece, should narrow down the possibilities to a very small number of individuals.

No, unfortunately the tunic does not have a tag or handwritten name anywhere inside of it. The BO ribbon is original to the tunic as when I had purchased it from Steve Wolfe back in the 80's he also presented a 2nd pattern BO and Coburg badge which I had bought to purposely display on the tunic.

At that time he had not offered 1st issue to me as I am not certain if he had those to sell.

**Rich Moran** · 08-08-2016, 05:20 PM

Originally posted by Br. James View Post

Hi Rich,

Many thanks for resurrecting your note from long ago and again sharing the pix of your beautiful Gauleiter's tunic and cap! Truly a treasure in anyone's collection, and many of us would love to own the pair! As I'm sure you know, the cap is from the period following the 1939 major reworking of the PL Uniform Code, and the tunic is from the previous period.

I do have one question, based upon your sentence: "Anyone know the criteria of Blood Order & Coburg badge wear on this?" Do you have any reason to believe that the original owner of this tunic was a Coburg Badge holder, or are you raising this question as background to possibly adding a CB to the tunic's display?

Again, simply a gorgeous tunic, apparently in excellent condition, and I join many here who are green with envy! Cheers,

Br. James

Br. James, yes I understand about the visor cap not being from the early 30's but as you pointed out from a later period. Would of liked to have an earlier version but they are really quite rare.

Regarding the criteria of wear, no, I have no belief that the owner was a recipient of the Coburg badge but did purchase that and a PO for purpose of display on the gaulieters tunic.

Thank you for your kind words of appreciation.

**Rich Moran** · 08-08-2016, 05:21 PM

Originally posted by SMV View Post

Gauleiter Franz Schwede Coburg

Gorgeous tunic!

Thank you for posting the 2 images. I do have the Coburg badge and BO hung on the uniform as they appear in the images. Thank you for your appreciation!

**Rich Moran** · 08-08-2016, 05:32 PM

Originally posted by Br. James View Post

Hi again, Rich,

Following up on your thought: "Not certain if any Gaulieters had both [BO and CB] so images may not exsist," I ran the CB List and Patzwall's list of BO recipients against the list of Gauleiters as acknowledged in the 1934 edition of "Reichstagung in Nürnberg," and here follow the results:

Gauleiters holding the BO and the CB:
Franz Schwede-Coburg (second issue BO)
Julius Streicher

Gauleiters holding the BO:
Friedrich Hildebrandt / Hildebrand
Wilhelm Friedrich Loeper
Adolf Wagner
Robert Wagner
Karl Wahl

Gauleiters holding the CB:
Dr. Otto Hellmuth
Martin Mutschmann
Fritz Sauckel

I hope and trust that this information is helpful.

Br. James

Br. James, that information is very helpful in trying to figure out who the original owner was.

With these names you have provided:

Gauleiters holding the BO:
Friedrich Hildebrandt / Hildebrand
Wilhelm Friedrich Loeper
Adolf Wagner
Robert Wagner
Karl Wahl

The next step would be to locate these mens measurements for uniform fitment.

Thank you for filling in some blanks!

**Br. James** · 08-09-2016, 03:47 PM

My pleasure, Rich...not sure how you will find out those measurements! Best of luck, and do let us know how your quest turns out!

Cheers,

Br. James

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