HJ grouping - help needed!!

[Wolf100]

Hello gentlemen, today i got a nice hj grouping.

A HJ Ausweis
a HJ Führer Ausweis
A leather HJ etui from Nürnberg " HJ, Ausweis, Erinnerung, Nürnberg, die Stadt, des Reichsparteitages"
3 pics from the same person with km hat
a Dienstbefehl from the SCHUPO.
and a Polizeiverwaltungsgesetz from 1941

All from the same person.



Can you help me with the prices of these items, because i´m not so educated in documents and i want to sell them on the E stand.

Kindest regards, marc


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[Wolf100]

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[Wolf100]

I cannot look at the grouping now, because i´m at work, but a forummeber told me, that the guy on the photo has a golden party badge.

Please help me with a price for the grouping. I want to sell it or trde it against a Off. Art. Visor cap or a WH dagger with hangers.

Kindest regards Marc

[Erich B.]

It can't be a gold party badge because he's too young to have qualified. I can't tell by the image, but he should probably have qualified for the gold HJ badge--maybe that's what the comment was about. I would say the group would be worth around $350.00 or so--any other opinions?
Erich

[Garry M.]

Hi Marc,

The two HJ-Ausweise are (apart from the presence of the tradition stamp) fairly run-of-the-mill and I'd value them at 80-90 Euros for the pair. I like the pass holder and would put 10-20 Euros on that.

It's probably nothing to worry about but the tradition stamp was not applied at his Bann. St Pölten was Bann 516 whereas this boy was from Bann 514. Perhaps his 'home' Bann didn't have a stamp. Geographically there wasn't much distance between them so who knows

I'd say 130 Euros for the HJ and the photographs unless the photos show anything interesting of course which will up the price.

As I said, I can't offer any help with the other two items so hopefully someone will be able to give you a price for those.

[Wolf100]

SCHMUSI, that is a little low. Look at Kai Winklers and collectors guild site. Similar groupings are priced there at 540€ and 650$.

The items are now on the E stand for 500$.(or for a trade for a WH Arti. Off. visor, the restamount will be paid by me).

[Garry M.]

'More haste less speed' needed on my part Actually the ID and tradition stamp are more interesting than I stated. In my haste I completely overlooked the fact that this boy had, of course, been a member of the illegal Austrian HJ prior to the Anschluss. That may make this set more interesting to someone looking to fill this gap in a collection.

[Garry M.]

SCHMUSI, that is a little low. Look at Kai Winklers and collectors guild site. Similar groupings are priced there at 540€ and 650$.

The items are now on the E stand for 350$.(or for a trade for a WH Arti. Off. visor, the restamount will be paid by me).

Yes Marc but they are mad dealer prices Good luck with the sale though!

[Wolf100]

Danke Schmusi. Ich weiß Winkler und Collectors guild sind keine Maßstäbe aber meiner Meinung nach ist es verdammt schwer so ein zusammenhängendes Konvolut zu finden. Und schon gar nicht so ein frühes, illegales!

Danke für den Hinweis, den hätte ich so nicht erkannt!!!!


Thanks Schmusi. I know, Winkler and collectors guild are nor really the bestprice dealers, but imho it is really hard to find such a nice grouping, especially such an early, illegal one.

Thanks for the hint, i wouldn´t have seen that!!!

[Garry M.]

nichts zu danken!