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    Golden visor eagle for review

    Hi Sirs,
    I got this eagle few days ago and i am wondering if it is genuine and for what purpose it has been made?
    Coukd it be a M-38 State eagle?
    Railway visors?
    Hoping to hear from you
    Christophorus
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    Yes, state (civil) eagle--most commonly found on Reichsbahn visors.
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      #3
      Nice original, but seems unmarked?

      Mil

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        Originally posted by Military View Post
        Nice original, but seems unmarked?
        Indeed Mil, it appears to be unmarked.

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          #5
          To answer your PM, yes, they were mass-produced.


          Wim Saris would know the exact date of introduction of this particular eagle.
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            Originally posted by stonemint View Post
            To answer your PM, yes, they were mass-produced.
            Wim Saris would know the exact date of introduction of this particular eagle.
            This is in short a development for the new pattern. Not all state organizations started its wearing at the same moment.

            New decree about the form for the national eagle emblem from March 7, 1936 : “die Gestaltung des Hoheitszeichens des Reichs”.
            Most aspects from the NSDAP eagle were included.
            The actual form was slightly different as the one that was further developed for the state-organizations. The wearing for the headgear
            was agreed by the Minister of the Reich of Interior with Hitler’s Deputy and came into being in the later part of the year (die Neuregelung
            ist bis zum 31. Dezember 1936 durchzuführen). This new national eagle emblem was officially phrased as: “Mützenhoheitszeichen für
            Behörden des Reiches, der Länder, Gemeinden, Reichsbahn und Reichspost”. Largely translated as: National (eagle) emblem for headgear
            for Reich-authorities and states, for municipality, German railroad and postal organizations. Note that customs and forestry were
            Reich-authorities, as were also the Reichsbank. This eagle pattern was worn by officials, employees and workers from “Staatliche Verwaltungen”.

            Officially this type of eagle should be marked according RZM structures, but many are known having no markings at all. To phrase this pattern
            as M38 is nonsense. Reichsbahn had first shorter wings; the larger version was worn about 1941. To explain all of this for its development
            is too much work and was once planned for volume 6 of the headgear-series. We all know what happened with my friend mr. Bender. It is
            very well possible the company is not further in business, but all is silent overthere.
            Last edited by wilhelm Saris; 05-26-2020, 08:22 AM.

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