Three Social Welfare Medals-for review

[Klaus54]

I would like to show you my small collection of the Social Welfare Medals. Medal on female ribbon and the one with swords have thicker outside ring. That means, at least two different dives were used. Medal with swords seems to be made of zinc, two others made of tombac. Swords are not magnetic. If there are any "Red Flags", please, let me know.
Thank you in advance for your comments.

[Ian Hulley]

The medals are all original … the swords … well, who can ever really know.

Ian

[ironfist]

ok

ok I would say .the normal ribbon one is fine good medal and ribbon.
The one with a bow ...well the hanger to the rear is quite sloppy .often the ring is connected by the ribbon still going through it and an attachment or safty pin fitted.
The medal itself is not a great example and has an odd dent to one side. , but not the front medal is not finished well and has a stamping lip to front and rear ,I will say it is original but not very good and there are far better out there .
Ok
the one with swords .There are very few original ones that were awarded with swords VERY few.Dont know if you read the article on this by Johannes T Schweizer ..most of these with swords were just added to bump up the price you will see many single ribbon bars with swords .
The original swords should measure 15x10mm the award and ribbon imo are correct.

[ironfist]

swords

just to add the swords for this award are silver they become gilded for the 3rd class .
Regards Pete

[Ian Hulley]

just to add the swords for this award are silver they become gilded for the 3rd class .
Regards Pete

3rd Class ribbon bar ...

[ironfist]

nice

if the mm is correct very nice item

[Klaus54]

Thank you very much for all the comments and information.

I agree, bow ribbon is indeed very sloppy. It looks like home made improvisation. I have only one explanation of this. Female recipient wanted to carry the ribbon on the daily bases and attach the medal for special occasions. Therefore she made herself her own one. Of course, I cannot exclude the possibility that the ribbon was fabricated by one of the post-war medal owners.
I noticed the dent of the medal. There is very small deformation only on the half width of the rim. That is the reason that there is no trace of the dent on the other side of the medal.

Swords on my medal are pretty well done. But, even if they are produced before 1945 they do not belong to this decoration. Those swords are much bigger than 15x10mm.

I am glad to know that all three medals and ribbons are original.

[ironfist]

ok

Klaus
some of these were just simply worn wearing a safety pin.. Thing we need to think on is that not everyone is good with a needle and thread. However I do like the bow ..Nothing wrong with a bit of period do it yourself.
Regards Pete

[Ian Hulley]

I agree, bow ribbon is indeed very sloppy. It looks like home made improvisation. I have only one explanation of this. Female recipient wanted to carry the ribbon on the daily bases and attach the medal for special occasions. Therefore she made herself her own one. Of course, I cannot exclude the possibility that the ribbon was fabricated by one of the post-war medal owners.

The 'sloppy' way it's done means little … my DRK award was mounted by an amateur (presumably the recipient) for pinning on. IF the stitching was UV+ I would be concerned.

Ian

[ironfist]

yes

UV very good point Ian.

[Sevrin]

3rd Class ribbon bar ...

Nice Ian,

Don't see that often, if at all.

Best,

James

[Klaus54]

The 'sloppy' way it's done means little … my DRK award was mounted by an amateur (presumably the recipient) for pinning on. IF the stitching was UV+ I would be concerned.

Ian

Ribbon and stitching are UV negative.
Klaus

[Ian Hulley]

Ribbon and stitching are UV negative.
Klaus

Good to hear, it's not exactly a Knights Cross, there's so little monetary value to be made it's hardly worth messing with them really. As I said before … the swords are a nice thig to see but when they were placed there is anyone's guess.

Ian

[Klaus54]

Good to hear, it's not exactly a Knights Cross, there's so little monetary value to be made it's hardly worth messing with them really. As I said before … the swords are a nice thig to see but when they were placed there is anyone's guess.

Ian

You are right, no big money is involved in those items and any messing does not bring much. Medals with swords, I consider only as pieces for display. But in my case, swords do not belong the decoration. They are too big.
For me it was important to know, if medals and ribbons were original. Maybe, one day I find matching set of documents to those awards.
Klaus