Oberwaldmeister uniform (Forestry) for review

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Thoughts on this Oberwaldmeister uniform (Forestry)

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The shoulderboards

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Sideviews

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Pocket details (note dark green accents...is that WW2 era???) and behind collar!
With badge loops...
Proper horn buttons...So 1940's?

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Rear view and liner..

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Maker label

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Source also has an extra set of slip-on boards from this forster...but Waldmeister, a lower rank
(from his overcoat before promotion?)

Thoughts? looks OK for WW2 era?

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The tunic lacks the rock cut back panel with belt support hooks...so post war? or were these also made simplified like that?
(perhaps late war simplified back cut?). The rest of the cut is per war time specs...as far as I can tell.
Tabs appear to have been removed... so per post war regs? (shoulderboards remained the same)

I like everything, proper cut, proper horn buttons, proper insignia, removed collar tabs BUT simple back cut...
Not the old style "Rockschnitt".... nor any back belt support ramps in the rear...which are features we like to see,
to make sure its war time era...

Thoughts?

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Thanks for looking!

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All that bothers me is the back panel design....simplified cut....not "Rockschnitt"!
A short cut in tailoring? late war? or post war?
Does it still stand a chance?

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Button comparison...text book resin buttons in green material...
So actually also different (upgrade?) but horn buttons were also used if I am not mistaken...
(or is that a jagerschaft-hunting thing only?)

[foersterBerlin]

Hi Nick!
Tunic is definitvly west german post war forestry.
The simple back cut was "officially" introduced in 1949, though until the 60´s some older foresters still wore the old Rock-cut.
The collar tabs were reintroduced in 1949, but finally forbidden in 1955.
The light brown buttons are typical for 1950´s/60´s tunics - they are a sort of plastic and bleached out for some reason. When you look at the back of those buttons most will show correct green colour.
Until the 50´s forestry buttons were always made from pressed, green dyed horn (not resin).

Would rather save the money and wait for a real pre 45 one.

Those can also show some non-textbook specifics, f.e. no slit for the dagger. I have seen two of such unusual tunics from bavarian foresters ( both were owned by the families and name of the wearer known). Ranks were Oberforstmeister and Forstmeister, so they were probably some sort of every day "work tunic" for the Forstamt leaders.

Best
Stefany

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Thanks for confirming my thoughts Stefany! I knew you wold come through as our resident Wald expert!
Yes that back panel killed it for me and probably no dagger hanger provisions...but wanted to make double sure!
Cheap...$170 but I will pass!!!

[NickG]

Hi Nick!
Tunic is definitvly west german post war forestry.
The simple back cut was "officially" introduced in 1949, though until the 60´s some older foresters still wore the old Rock-cut.
The collar tabs were reintroduced in 1949, but finally forbidden in 1955.
The light brown buttons are typical for 1950´s/60´s tunics - they are a sort of plastic and bleached out for some reason. When you look at the back of those buttons most will show correct green colour.
Until the 50´s forestry buttons were always made from pressed, green dyed horn (not resin).

Would rather save the money and wait for a real pre 45 one.

Those can also show some non-textbook specifics, f.e. no slit for the dagger. I have seen two of such unusual tunics from bavarian foresters ( both were owned by the families and name of the wearer known). Ranks were Oberforstmeister and Forstmeister, so they were probably some sort of every day "work tunic" for the Forstamt leaders.

Best
Stefany

Danke schon Foerster Berlin!

[foersterBerlin]

Hi Nick,

for sure - this guy knew the correct tunic!

For a good TR period textbook tunic (rank like the guy´s one) you currently have to invest around $400-450 - but then it is an Original!

Best Wishes from Berlin
Stefany