Deutsches Rotes Kreuz tunc? Opinions needed.

[kpaintner]

When I purchased this tunic, it was configured/put together to look like a Luft tunic. It has since been debunked as that...see thread.
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=742608

I have since stripped all the Luft insignia and have had a couple of people inspect it who definitely believe it is period and quite possibly a German Red Cross tunic. The only markings are what you see in the pictures on the bandage pouch. It is a very heavy wool piece and is very well put together. I plan on selling it on E-stand, but I would really like to know what I have so I can properly list it.

Let me know your thoughts.

Regards,
Kevin

[kpaintner]

Could a moderator move this to the Police and Civil Organizations Forum...I think I posted this in the wrong area.

Thanks!

[kpaintner]

Just spent the last hour and a half doing tunic searches with no results and/or conclusions. It has a lot of similarities to an M40 but the lack of the pleated pockets is puzzling. Anyone else have any opinions? I would be willing to ship this (in the US) to anyone who wants to inspect it in person if they think they can ientify it

Thanks,
Kevin

[Hilton]

My guess is that this is a Werkschutz tunic.

[NickG]

I would say something para-military..
Perhaps indeed a Werkschutz organization? or Bahnschutz? or Luftschutz...
Bahnschutz had blue collar facing though...and this uniform is not "blue" enough...more gray-ish...
and Luftschutz usually wore LW related uniforms, like fliegerblouse types...

I don't think it's war time Red Cross either, their uniforms were more gray than blue-gray and had a different color facing on the collar (pigeon gray).
This one is from my collection. I have several...
Unless its a late war or post war variant...but it has a 1940 date...???? It's a mystery...but I am leaning towards post war (West German) DRK as a possibility...
but the ink stamp dating does look genuine to me...

[kpaintner]

Hilton and Nick,
I appreciate the comments. It is kind of a mystery. I am going to try and find some pictures of Werkschutz uniforms....

Kevin

[NickG]

Hilton and Nick,
I appreciate the comments. It is kind of a mystery. I am going to try and find some pictures of Werkschutz uniforms....

Kevin

Here are some

http://www.warrelics.eu/forum/cloth-...schutz-410554/


http://www.huizhang2000.com/ww2/UNIF...Protection.htm


http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...=446339&page=3



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[kpaintner]

Thanks Nick

[kpaintner]

I took this tunic to the Colorado Military Collectors show today. Two dealers looked at it and both thought it was Red Cross....the one reognized it as I was walkig up to his table and commented before examing it..."Looks like you got a German Red Cross jacket".

Would a Werkschutz jacket have the bandage pouch?

[NickG]

That's a good question...
Would a wekschutz tunic still have a first air pouch?
(it beng a static guard non combat unit) I would say probably not....

So if that eliminates Werkschutz...probably DRK after all?
But why is the collar the wrong color??? The collar is not pigeon gray...
Note 3 examples from my collection...
Also the pebbling on the buttons of war time DRK uniforms was very fine...(fine dots, smoother)

If its a simplified war time design (collar matching uniform cloth), why the early 1940 date stamp?
Could be?

[NickG]

The problem is that the West German DRK also used such gray uniforms...
Your tunic style is not covered in Angolia's book on German Red Cross-DRK (and diplomats)


Here a nice photos of DRK men evacuating wounded soldiers from a train. (Reutlingen 1945)
Note collar in lighter gray...

[Hilton]

Most of my Werkschutz tunics, and also the Wachdienst Norwegen tunic has first aid dressing pouches NickG.

[Lukasz78]

for me could be war time DRK tunic, look at the original photo of Alpine Rescue Service on this site
http://www.sixtharmygroup.com/portal...ish_rel=-10000

[Lt Visser]

DRK Tunic

The collars wasn't always pigeon grey. Later on they were made with the same material as the tunic itself.

[Lt Visser]