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    #16
    Thanks all.

    This is obviously a work in progress and the list may need to be adjusted and updated as more cards surface.

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      #17
      Just thought I would add a little more info regarding Kripo Dienstausweis.


      There were four different types of Kriminalpolizei headquarters throughout Nazi Germany and the size of these was determined by their area population and local requirements. There was approximately one Kripo detective per 5,000 inhabitants.

      Kriminalpolizei Leitstellen - KPLSt - Regional Headquarters

      Kriminalpolizei Stellen - KPSt - Sub-Regional Headquarters

      Kriminalpolizei Außendienststellen - KPAuDSt - Large branch office

      Kriminalpolizei Außenposten - KPAuP - Small branch office


      It is now known that each of these HQ's had there own associated dienstausweis.

      KPLSt and KPSt both shared the same wording on the dienstausweis but in the case of the KPSt, the word "Leit" was crossed out. However, I have seen several examples were this was not practised.

      The dienstausweis of the KPAuDSt and KPAuP both had different titles printed on them.
      Last edited by SiPo; 07-20-2010, 08:43 AM.

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        #18
        KPLSt

        There were approximately 150 - 250 detectives allocated to each of the 22 KPLSt.
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          #19
          KPSt

          There were approximately 80 - 120 detectives allocated to each of the 44 KPSt.

          Note the similarity with the KPLSt Dienstausweis. This example of a KPSt Dienstausweis clearly shows the word "Leit" crossed out.
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            #20
            KPAuDSt

            A KPAuDSt usually had a complement of 10 or more detectives.

            München-Gladbach had a population of 128,000 thereby allowing them approximately 25 detectives.
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              #21
              KPAuP

              A KPAuP usually had a complement of less than 10 detectives.

              Blankenstein had a population of approximately 1,780. Krim.Sek. Barthel was their only detective.
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                #22
                Incredible.

                Horle's ashen "Grave Digger" Face is truly fitting....


                "Hundestaffel"

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                  #23
                  A very scholarly and well researched presentation Mr. G-Man. Thank you for sharing your treasures.

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                    #24
                    Very nice G, as usual.
                    Faces of these detectives are quite scaring..

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                      #25
                      Excellent presentation and collection
                      Interested in the Gendarmerie - Schutzpolizei - Gemeinden - Feuerschutzpolizei - Wasserschutzpolizei - Etc. Looking For Anything Polizei Related!

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                        #26
                        Fascinating & Scholarly (!)

                        Fascinating & Scholarly (!)

                        Thanks Graham for sharing with us your Unique Study of the 1944-1945 Dienstausweis
                        of the SiPo!
                        "Hat's Off" to the attention & detail which you have shown - as you make a complex
                        area understandable to the viewers. What a Special Thread! ... Txs, Dave / dblmed

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                          #27
                          Wonderful photo/study Graham.
                          Thank you for sharing with us.

                          What "faces" indeed!

                          Regards,

                          Marcus

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                            #28
                            Although not strictly Dienstausweis, I thought I would also cover the styles of ID issued to paid employees of the Sicherheitspolizei.

                            According to Himmlers orders laid down in RdErl. d. RFSSuChdDtPol. im RMdI. v. 1.7.36, all employees not employed in police duties where to be issued with a Hausausweis. This pass allowed the employee the authority to gain access to secured buildings/areas where they were employed, but did not afford them any police powers.

                            The basic design of this Hausausweis remained almost unchanged from its inception until the end of the war, apart from a few minor changes to wording and font used.

                            The Hausausweis was made of white card and was validated in the same way as the SiPo Dienstausweis in that it was valid for 6 months from date of issue, being allowed a further 6 months extension. The pass was not valid after this extension and was renewed after 1 year.
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                              #29
                              On 12.10.36, Himmler further decreed that all employees of the Ordnungspolizei not employed in police duties were also to be issued with a Hausausweis. However, this had a completely different design to those issued by the SiPo.

                              The Orpo. Hausausweis was also white in colour but was bi-fold instead of single sided and was made from oilcloth similar to the Polizei Dienstausweis.

                              This very rare example is of the Orpo. Hausausweis style but as one can see, it is has been issued by the SiPo in Prag.

                              I have never seen another of this style of Hausausweis being used by the SiPo instead of their own style card above. The reason for this is unknown to me at this time, but is possibly due to availability.
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                                #30
                                Although faded, the pass exhibits the beautifully designed stamp of the "Protektoratskriminalpolizei."
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