Bahnschutz uniform value

[adlerfan53]

And here's the visor...

That is one of the coolest visors I have ever seen. Never saw one before today. Thanks for posting.

[Diane]

Bahnschutz "Spartenfarbe"

Hi guys,


Why are some some WW2 Bahnschutz shoulder boards have a grey base colour and others black?

I am trying to figure out if black is for operational officials and grey is perhaps administration. Can anyone help me out and cite a reference?


Thank you.

Diane Schreiber

[wilhelm Saris]

According to regulations from 1939 and as published in the magazine "Schwert und Spaten" the backing color should be black (auf schwarzer Tuchunterlage).
It is further said "durchwegs" for the ranks 1 trough 7, which means in fact always.
Further it is said that doctors did have a Bavarian blue velvet backing; the ranks 15 through 18 did wear a black velvet backing.
Vizepräsident did wear two backing: black velvet and the secondary color was grey. This was also worn by the Präsident. A Reichsbahnschutzfüher was not allowed to wear the grey color.
Honorary ranks and leaders z.b.V with a higher rank should wear a secondary color: either being silvergrey cloth or grey velvet.

So grey is not specific administration, but has to do with rank. This did not change in 1941 when new orders were announced.

With the older uniforms, as worn since fall 1933 the backing was largely black. Doctors did wear a purple backing; advisors did wear a red backing.

It would be too much to go into detail.

[Diane]

Clarification

Thank you Wihem!

I ask this because I have some EM grade boards that have a grey backing, they are the later war pattern with pasteboard and metal wire inserts but only glued together like some Reichsbahn boards that I have seen.

Odd variations.

Diane

According to regulations from 1939 and as published in the magazine "Schwert und Spaten" the backing color should be black (auf schwarzer Tuchunterlage).
It is further said "durchwegs" for the ranks 1 trough 7, which means in fact always.
Further it is said that doctors did have a Bavarian blue velvet backing; the ranks 15 through 18 did wear a black velvet backing.
Vizepräsident did wear two backing: black velvet and the secondary color was grey. This was also worn by the Präsident. A Reichsbahnschutzfüher was not allowed to wear the grey color.
Honorary ranks and leaders z.b.V with a higher rank should wear a secondary color: either being silvergrey cloth or grey velvet.

So grey is not specific administration, but has to do with rank. This did not change in 1941 when new orders were announced.

With the older uniforms, as worn since fall 1933 the backing was largely black. Doctors did wear a purple backing; advisors did wear a red backing.

It would be too much to go into detail.