Ribbon bar ID for RAD officer - Lt Franz August Hillerman

[ravrick]

Hi, attached are pictures of my wife's uncle Lt Franz August Hillerman who was the adjutant to Konstantin Hierl, he was initially RAD and then Wehrmacht pioneers, killed in action in Sept 1941. I am trying to figure out his awards, on the photo he has a bronze DRL and SA sports badges. In the painting he has a ribbon bar which is likely to be the RAD 4 year, West wall and I have no idea of the last one? Any ideas?
cheers,
Rick

[ravrick]

Two pictures of him with Hierl 11th April 1940....
Rick

[Yubari]

IMO painter made a mistake. Considering age of this soldier, lack of several other medals that would indicate either hansa cross or spanish military merit cross...

[HPL2008]

Agreed on the first two ribbons. As for the last one:

In the official order of precedence for medal- and ribbon bars, the following awards were worn after the Schutzwall-Ehrenzeichen:

• German Olympic Games Commemorative Medal [Deutsche Olympia-Erinnerungsmedaille]
• Decoration of the German Red Cross [Ehrenzeichen des Deutschen Roten Kreuzes]
• Orders and decorations of former German territorial sovereigns ranked by their classes and within the same class by the date of their award [Orden und Ehrenzeichen ehemaliger deutscher Landesherren in der Reihenfolge ihrer Klasse und innerhalb derselben Klasse nach dem Tag ihrer Verleihung]
• Foreign Orders and Decorations in the order in which they were awarded [Ausländische Orden und Ehrenzeichen in der Reihenfolge ihrer Verleihung]

It's definitely not the DRK-Ehrenzeichen. Offhand, I can't find any state decoration that matches, either, but from his age, those seem unlikely anyway.

It could well be a foreign award: For example, a red ribbon with a white center stripe would match the Order of the Crown of Italy. (Also, it is quite plausible for the adjutant of a high-ranking person like Hierl to be awarded a foreign order.)

I wouldn't completely rule out the Olympia-Erinnerungsmedaille, either. Perhaps the painter stylized the ribbon and depicted the five white center stripes as single solid stripe.

(I think it is unlikely for the paintner to be so careless that he got the colors totally wrong.)

[toot]

it looks like that he has a PARTI BADGE, pinned to his tie?

[ravrick]

Thanks for the input guys, he was a party member and a great believer in the Fuhrer and Germany up until his death. His sister once told me that in a strange way she was glad he died when he did because she thought he would be totally distraught at the way the war panned out with the utter destruction and division of Germany by 1945! Photo attached is his wartime grave....

Rick

[Ron Weinand]

Fire Cross 2nd Cl??