Panzer man in captivity, May '45

[stonemint]

Unusual uniform to be worn in captivity--I would assume panzer, but obviously not a wrapper, (looks like a fliegerbluse) and the tabs are non-standard.
Thoughts?


LW-HG Officer Candidate?
WH-Pz Pioneer?


Unusual in that he is wearing the TKs--most pics of Panzermanner in captivity show that they had removed the TKs prior to surrender.

[HAF]

realy interesting photo ,no idea wich unit he was ,but for sure luftwaffe .

[pauke]

I could imagine it being made post-war but after returning home. All the fellows I knew were not in a studio photo situation as prisoners wearing a clean white shirt. Only a couple of post-war denazified uniform studio photos are known to me. The officer cap cord might be a sign of his being a high ranking NCO?

[mjfur]

What is with the Cockade mounted half way up the visor?

[OSS]

It appears from his collar tabs that he identifies as a Panzer Pionier, which would almost certainly mean he was a HG vet.

[Willi Z.]

That's my guess as well.

[Simon O.]

The de-nazification of uniforms occured post-surrender as ordered by the allies. In Norway at least the process started in june.

[GAMS1]

IMO the picture has been " photoshopped "period .
The collar patches piping looks "painted" ?
Nick

[W Petz]

My take on this photo is that he was HG Panzer...not all TK's were removed prior to surrender. Standard Panzer tabs but someone applied dashes to make them into Pioneer tabs.

I posted a portrait of Panzerman portrait on my POW thread showing TK's on the lapels of a tropical tunic and still wearing his Panzer Badge at Camp Barkeley, Texas in 1944. I have also seen quite a few POWs still wearing their original insignia at various POW camps especially in Canada.

Unusual uniform to be worn in captivity--I would assume panzer, but obviously not a wrapper, (looks like a fliegerbluse) and the tabs are non-standard.
Thoughts?


LW-HG Officer Candidate?
WH-Pz Pioneer?


Unusual in that he is wearing the TKs--most pics of Panzermanner in captivity show that they had removed the TKs prior to surrender.

[panzer1432]

IMO the picture has been " photoshopped "period .
The collar patches piping looks "painted" ?
Nick

Not photo shopped. The texture of the collar tabs was sometimes different. Tabs demand close examination. The tabs are different texture than the boards.

I agree HG Panzer engineer.

[pep]

hmmm ... tabs appear to be black (SS type) but, with panzer skulls ...

twisted piped pre-war SS EM/NCO tabs? or regular SS tabs with pioneer piping?

[Yubari]

The de-nazification of uniforms occured post-surrender as ordered by the allies. In Norway at least the process started in june.

I have POW picture of Afrikakorps guy in some paper grouping and he has all the nazi symbols and awards there! Different country, different manners.

[Simon O.]

Yeah, but when was the photo taken? The de-nazification process started after the end of the war