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    Urkunde on Winkler's shop

    Hi,

    Recently I began studying the 269. Infanterie-Division with main focus on Panzeraberwehr-Abteilung 269 (due to a very inspiring meeting with a vet from 3. Kompanie this April) and therefor my interest for collecting came back.

    In my search for docs and other things related to Panzeraberwehr-Abteilung 269 I discovered Kai Winkler's shop (and read about him on WaF)...

    I noticed this doc and the representation date.. Acc. to the Division's history (I have the book from 1967) the 269. Infanterie-Division were located in Denmark at the time when this EK II Urkunde was presented. Furthermore Willi Kahlert's unit were stationed some 20 km's from my home and there they underwent training until March 1941 where they marched for the Lithuanian borderland.

    My question is therefor:

    Could it be that Willi Kahlert earned the EK II whilst fighting in France and Benelux May/June of 1940 and getting the Urkunde with some 6 moths delay? I just find this odd since the early presentations of EK's were highly profiled in the ranks and German bureaucracy very strict...

    Any thoughts?

    Also - what do you think about Curt Badinski's signature on one of the other Urkunden (I'm new to docs)?

    The doc:
    Skærmbillede 2018-05-23 kl. 17.46.41.jpg

    Skærmbillede 2018-05-23 kl. 18.04.22.jpg

    #2
    I have certainly seen plenty of EK awards from the Norwegian and French campaigns made in late 1940 and even early 1941.
    Collecting German award documents, other paperwork and photos relating to Norway and Finland.

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      #3
      Thank you for your input Simon. Have you ever come across an explanation as to why these were presented with more than 6 months of delay?

      I could imagine it was due to the overall workload within the administration and Urkunden not being prioritized.

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        #4
        Things don't come to light until a while after the fact. Quotas, by that i mean a unit could be given a quota of awards which would then take time to sort out who might be worthy. Also injuries or other reasons for absences from the unit, deciding to wait until they're return before awarding.
        Collecting German award documents, other paperwork and photos relating to Norway and Finland.

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          #5
          Alright, thank you for your input Simon. Very informative.

          BR,
          Mads

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