Genuine Paper items?

[ChrisQP09]

Hey guys,

I recently purchased this letter, envelope and photo from a local market. Any help regards to translating and whether the items are genuine. I noticed the text on letters when held up against the sun.

The items, except the envelope, are actually rather discoloured (yellowish).

http://pho.to/AgBrq

[ChrisQP09]

I tried to put images in thread but wouldn't scale correctly!

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[ChrisQP09]

Thanks Sonderkommando,

Are you able to lend any advice or assist me in authenticating this items?

[Hank C.]

Thanks Sonderkommando,

Are you able to lend any advice or assist me in authenticating this items?

They look okay to me...I can't read much of it, but the short sentence on the folded piece of paper begins "Enclosed 3 photos from Rus(sia?)...."

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Hank

[ChrisQP09]

They look okay to me...I can't read much of it, but the short sentence on the folded piece of paper begins "Enclosed 3 photos from Rus(sia?)...."

best
Hank

Cheers, any idea of this Charlemagne paper was from the third reich period?

[Hank C.]

Cheers, any idea of this Charlemagne paper was from the third reich period?

No idea....but you could probably Google "charlemagne paper paris" and get a good idea.

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Hank

[ChrisQP09]

Unfortunately, I cannot get anything on this search term and tried separate reference terms. Unusual.

[FrenchVolunteer]

Hi,

papers with watermark, even more with typical "old" illustration, are more probably for the first part of the XXth century and earlier.
It was very used between the XVII and XVIIIth centuries.
I will say that there is good change that your sheet of paper was used before the end of WWII.

Dutch and French seemed to be quite specialists in them, there is a lot of books on the subject :

- Filigranes et autres caractéristiques des papiers fabriqués en France aux XVIIe et XVIIIe siècles (2000 types of watermark, 6000 producers, 1200 monograms), published in 1995

- an appendix was just published (2017), with 200 watermarks, 350 producers, 750 monograms.

http://afhepp.org/spip.php?article158

You may contact Denis Peaucelle, the big boss of the AFHEPP (French association for the paper history) here :

http://afhepp.org/?page=auteur&id_auteur=3

Maybe he can identify your watermark.

See You

Vince