Question about a German-Cross-grouping

[Militariaphotos.com]

Someone offered me a grouping of a German Cross in Gold holder. The problem is, that his name is not in the GCiG-holders book. He served in Geb.Jag.Rgt. 98 Lengris and later in Jag.Batl. 7. (Hochgebirgsjaeger)
Another problem is, that the the cased award is there, but not the award document. (about 10 other award docs are present) There are 2 writings about the GC-awarding purpose in the group, but not the award document. Also in the group is the Soldbuch were the GErman Cross is noticed: 1.9.1944

Someone of has an idea?

[Ian Jewison]

Some DK winners are missing from the books, however scutinising the Soldbuch entry and documents usually can give a good idea of the authenticity etc.

I personally know 2 Heer DK winners that are not listed in the references, these are for December 1944 however. Also I know of 6 DK winners from this time period also that are not listed.

Have you checked all references as there are quite a few DK books with ommissions, also is it a mispelling of the name? I have a group where his name is mispelled in all references even the Ehrenliste, however it can be attributed to the clerk who filled in his paperwork in 1944 as this document is there also!!!

Do you have the name or can you provide a scan of the Soldbuch entry?


/Ian

[Militariaphotos.com]

THX Ian.
The name is Siegfried Stößenreuther. In April 1945 he became Major rank.

[Ian Jewison]

THX Ian.
The name is Siegfried Stößenreuther. In April 1945 he became Major rank.

Unfortunately I can not find him listed in my immediate sources and neither can I find him on any Ehrenliste/Blatt for September 1944!

Can you get a scan of the entry in the Soldbuch?

/Ian

[Simon O.]

There is no one of that name listed in the DK list of the Gebirgstruppe volumes of 'Die Ritterkreuzträger'.

You mentioned Jäger Btl. 7, as far as i can tell this was not a hochgebirgs unit. Tessin records 2, both being formed in July 1942. One was changed to Jäger Btl.13 a month or so later and the other was incorporated into the 1 Skijäger Brigade around Nov.43. As i understand it there were only 4 Hochgebirgsjäger Btl. formed at various times and numbered 1-4

Any chance of seeing the award docs too?

[Militariaphotos.com]

Here are some pics. Lot containing of the German Cross + INfanteriesturmabzeichen, 10 award documents (Combat clasp, EK1. EK2, wound bage black silver gold, INfanteriesturmabzeichen and some others) and some other Battalion-documents.
Waht do you think?

[Ian Jewison]

In my opinion the entry dated 1.9.1944 is a security check on the Soldbuch and someone has squeezed this entry in!

Can not make out the town or what else is written underneath the date!

1.9.1944 is the end III quarter check on documents and you will find this date in many Soldbücher!

Did you say there were letters confirming his award?

Regards, Ian

[Ian Jewison]

Was he on a course 1.9.1944....are there any other entries that can verify this?

[D. Löwenhamn]

A Karl Strössenreuther received the German Cross in Gold as Oberleutnant in 7./Flak.Rgt. 26 on the 26.06.1942. That's probably the closest person name-wise.

Best regards/ Daniel

[Militariaphotos.com]

In my opinion the entry is fake. It looks like that it was written with a ball-pen, not with an ink-pen.

[Simon O.]

I'll check the names of the Jäger Btl.7 commanders this evening.


Can you make out the fp number on the CCC award entry and the unit stamp on the doc? Are there further unit entries after Jäger Btl.7? ie. the rest of 1944 and '45

Any chance of seeing the other award docs?

[Militariaphotos.com]

These are the only pics I got.

[Simon O.]

I'd want pics of the whole group from the seller. Not saying anything is bad, but a large group like this has a story to tell and like a jigsaw puzzle all the pieces have to fit to see the whole picture and you can't do that with only a few pieces. From the little seen here there are some things which don't yet add up but need a bit of research.

[Rich G]

The DKiG posted above is a fake so straight away I'd be running away from this 'grouping'


Rich

[Ian Jewison]

Incidentally the DK entry looks very much like an entry I had some months ago in a Stuka Soldbuch...that was fake also!