Krimschild document - question

[marcinkappa]

Hi there.

I picked up recently this nice document (among the others) on the local fleamarket.

http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=870648

I`m very surprised to notice there is a title "Prinz" placed before the soldiers name.
Was it common practice in Wehrmacht ?

[Bern]

G'day Marcin,
I can't vouch for the authenticity of the document, but the only Prinz Konrad Hohenlohe that I know of, died in 1918 at the age of 55.
Regards
Bern

[Simon O.]

Can't say that i like the doc one bit i'm afraid.

[Brian R]

G'day Marcin,
I can't vouch for the authenticity of the document, but the only Prinz Konrad Hohenlohe that I know of, died in 1918 at the age of 55.
Regards
Bern

Agreed.

It could be believable if the unit was of Austrian origin and if Hohenlohe had a son. But, it doesn't appear that either is true.

[marcinkappa]

Thank you Guys for your answers.

My main question was if the practice to have a document awarded to "Prinz" was common or rather rare practice in Hitlers Wehrmacht.

Of course the document itself IMO is 1000% original. I have no doubts.
Maybe I took poor pictures of the doc but it is a real one for sure. Exactly this version of Krimshild document was atributed with 28 Division.

Also the person of Konrad Hohenlohe was checked by me in the internet and I found even the photo of his Family grave. So he is a real person.

Please, take a look.

[marcinkappa]

Close up

[marcinkappa]

Konrad was an officer in 28 Infantry Division.
Below once again I compare for you my document and another original document found on internet atributed to a soldier of 28 Infantry Division.
They are the same.

[marcinkappa]

Here I give some historic facts about the Prince found on internet:

Konrad Alfred Maximilian Maria Prinz zu Hohenlohe–Schillingsfürst was born in 1919 in Bern (Switzerland).
Till 1933 Konrad lived in castle Friedstein in Steinach (Austria).
The same year 1933 Konrad was adopted by Karol Gotfryd Prinz zu Hohenlohe–Ingelfingen who had no wife or children by himself.

After adoption Konrad became Prinz zu Hohenlohe-Ingelfingen.
On 15th of October 1940 he started as sergant in Wehrmacht, but first he had to receive the German citizenship (August 1940).
Trained in Saarbrückenheim. On 30th of September 1942 he became Leutnat.

In October 1941 Konrad engaded with Ladislaja Mayr–Melnhof, then on 30th of September 1942 they got married in Grödig, Salzburg.

Shortly after that he was sent on Ost Front, in Februar 1943 he was heavily wounded and on 16th of May 1943 roku he died in Nikolskoje in Kriegslazarett nr 928.

So this person was real.
Does anybody has his picture in uniform or knows some more about his WH service ????

[jmark]

I can't really help much, but I did find his name in an officer casualty list:
Prinz v. Hohenlohe-Ingelfingen, Konrad-Maximilian
Born 16.08.1919
Leutnant d.R.
Mob.Truppenteil: Jäg.Rgt.83
Wehrbezirkkommando: Loben
Died 16.05.1943 as a result of wounds

And although it was not common, I've seen "Prinz" used by several German soldiers, notably those in 24. Panzer-Division.

Jason

[marcinkappa]

Yes, that`s the same guy. Thank you Jason.

Your info regarding 24 Panzer Division seems to be very correct and logical as it was an old Prussian division with lots of tradition and probably full of noblemen.

[Brian R]

Good research, it's good that you were able to prove his existence.

[marcinkappa]

Ok, I was very lucky to get a few more douments from the same local picker which are connected with Krimshild document

Here is the writing addressed to Prinz Konrad wife, Prinzessin Laja Hohenlohe, informing about his death on Ost Front.

[marcinkappa]

Can we see any other examples of award documents with "Prinz" and other titles out there ?
Please, share with us