I've had this card for 15-20 years. Am I correct in assuming it's some form of Christmas greeting from the commanding officer of some kreigsmarine unit to his men? Notice the embossing that I tried to show in the second photo. It reads"ETCIEAANEC", maybe something to do with the paper manufacturer or type of paper. It's an interesting and I haven't seen another like it.
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Yes, it is a "Christmas/remember your man" card. Actually , the Frau was supposed to imagine/believe he somehow was there with her and the kinder
War Holy-night = a War Christmas
"Weihnacht(Holy-Night) was the accepted NSDAP term for Christmas (as in the traditional Christmas, but just not using the term that had "Christ" in it...Weihnacht was known as a variant for Christmas before NSDAP but Hitler liked it as it did not have the religico-ideological baggage of pro-Christ term. And the ancient term Weih was used by Germans for "Holy" before ancient Germans were forced to become Christians en masse by their own rulers).
Note the looming presence of the soldier (who is far away on the front or naval boat -in this instance) even though he is not there in corporeal form.
This type of visual was typical for the war Xmas -
Hi,
Weihnachten is the right German expression and has nothing to do with NSDAP or permission
It was used before the TR and is still used today.
English: Christmas
German: Weihnachten
The term Weihnachten and its usage can be traced down in documents to the early 12th century.
An other expression is "Christfest" but this is and was used only in some areas of Germany.
Anyway a nice card !
Regards
ChristianComment
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In the old days I would have provided the citations from the academic press/university peer-reviewed books I got my information from. But it is just not worth it .
Increasingly, I am confronted by the fact that I should not share at all.
The "Xmas" card is nice.Comment
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Why so upset ?Originally posted by Michael Fay View Post
I have not said you are wrong. You are right in the fact about the origin of "Weih" as well as it was an accepted term.
What I said is that long before the NSDAP, "Weihnachten " as a term was used commonly: much more wider than Christfest
One of the first sources used this term is the poet Sperrvogel at around 1170.
Academic source ? Des Minnesangs Frühling, herausgegeben von Karl Lachmann, 1857Comment
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I appreciate the responses I have received to the " Christmas Card". Both responses provide valuable insight into the history of this piece of history.
Thanks,
GarryComment
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Very nice card Gary and you are right from the Command of the harbor security company. One of the harbors on the English Channel. I take it there is nothing written on the reverse??
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Yes, the reverse is blank.Comment
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Riddle...
I think the engrossment is permanently repeated on a roll of paper and cut whenever the motive of the card is done.Originally posted by Garry Nelson View Post
ETCIEAANNEC...
.....ET CIE A ANNE C ?
"ET CIE" in french means "and companions" and is a legal part of a company name.Comment
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I liked your explanation. Thank you for taking the time to explain. JimOriginally posted by Michael Fay View PostComment
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Agree with Christian, IMO this paper holds the watermark of the famous french paperwork company Aussedat and the full watermark that you would read if the card were not cut is "AUSSEDAT ET CIE A ANNECY
AUSSEDAT = company name
ET CIE = and companions
A = à = located in
ANNECY = city of Annecy in France, well know because of its lake, situated 20 km south of Geneva (Switzerland)Comment
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