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    #1

    Gunther Prien Signature...

    What does everyone think of this? Passes black light test.

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    I was offered one lately believe 150-200 US Dollars. IMO not as rare as some would like to think. He did sign a great deal of material.

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      #3
      Here is an authentic Prien signature. Make up your own mind.
      Max.
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        #4
        It's fake despite backlight test.
        Michael, authentic Prien is not easy to find. What evidence is there that he signed a lot of material? Ignoring the fake factory version, I have never over the years seen a lot of Prien material.
        There are threads on this forum discussing fake Prien, Kevin. I'll find them and put a link here for you yo compare. Don't waste your money on this junk.
        Last edited by Jeremy; 02-14-2015, 06:36 PM.

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          #5
          What makes you sure? It's easy to say it's fake but any reason behind that assertion?

          Originally posted by Jeremy View Post
          It's fake despite backlight test.
          Michael, authentic Prien is not easy to find. What evidence is there that he signed a lot of material? Ignoring the fake factory version, I have never over the years seen a lot of Prien material.
          There are threads on this forum discussing fake Prien, Kevin. I'll find them and put a link here for you yo compare. Don't waste your money on this junk.

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            #6
            Hi Kevin,
            Sure, I'll put something together for you next week to support my view that this sig style is fake.
            J

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              #7
              What specifically do you think makes it not authentic? There must be something that you see to think it is fake. Is it the P? The lettering? The period?

              If you know it's fake off the bat, then what specifically leads you to that conclusion? I've looked an numerous known signatures now and can't see that much if any difference.

              Originally posted by Jeremy View Post
              Hi Kevin,
              Sure, I'll put something together for you next week to support my view that this sig style is fake.
              J

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                #8
                Ff

                Hi Kevin
                Because straight off the bat I see it is a fake factory Prien-I immediately recognise the type and style of signature. See my other threads on fake factory signatures, Rommel, Marseille, Hartmann, Schnaufer etc. The fake factory signatures look similar to a good one but usually are more simplistic, in greater number, and very similar to one another.
                It's hard for some collectors to believe that the fake factory sigs are fake, given their prevalence so I understand your questioning, and I think many collections are tainted by this material, mine was until the Marseille thread and I began to recognise fake factory material.
                Will show the Prien fake factory style later.
                J

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                  #9
                  After you intial take I did a lot of research myself and after reviewing this thread, I'm inclined to believe it's genuine. Whether it is or not, we'll never know 100% as the only way to know that is if you saw the person sign it.

                  http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=285777

                  We can agree to disagree my friend. Thanks for your insight.



                  Originally posted by Jeremy View Post
                  Hi Kevin
                  Because straight off the bat I see it is a fake factory Prien-I immediately recognise the type and style of signature. See my other threads on fake factory signatures, Rommel, Marseille, Hartmann, Schnaufer etc. The fake factory signatures look similar to a good one but usually are more simplistic, in greater number, and very similar to one another.
                  It's hard for some collectors to believe that the fake factory sigs are fake, given their prevalence so I understand your questioning, and I think many collections are tainted by this material, mine was until the Marseille thread and I began to recognise fake factory material.
                  Will show the Prien fake factory style later.
                  J

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                    #10
                    Ok

                    Hmmm. I'll present my view as I said but I would also like your justification for why it is authentic.

                    You need to look at more than one thread.

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ighlight=Prien

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ighlight=Prien

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ighlight=Prien

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ighlight=Prien

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ighlight=Prien

                    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ighlight=Prien


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                      Originally posted by schmidtkevin View Post
                      ...... I did a lot of research myself and after reviewing this thread, I'm inclined to believe it's genuine.
                      I would be interested to know where you did your research and upon what you base your decision.
                      Max.

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                        #12
                        waiting

                        Guess he must be busy still doing his research, Max. To help him, here is a collection of fake factory Prien.
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                          #13
                          It seems that it is the same guy who signed afrika Rommel who did this one.
                          Originally posted by schmidtkevin View Post
                          What does everyone think of this? Passes black light test.

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                            #14
                            crap

                            And there are 5 for this tribute edition... double signed is easy to get from the factory for that special print.

                            http://www.thearcsoffiregallery.co.u...e-Edition.html

                            Plus these (including the one supplied at this website for comparison) also attached double signed masterpieces of crap.

                            Look like your Prien, Kevin??
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                              #15
                              As I said, we could agree to disagree.

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