Hitler and Maurice signatures

[Oberbootsmann]

Hello. What do the experts think of those 1925 signatures of Adolf Hitler and Emil Maurice?

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[Oberbootsmann]

Close-ups of the signatures

[Oberbootsmann]

The AH signature looks good IMO. Does someone have a signature of Maurice for comparison?

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[Br. James]

The supposed Emil Maurice signature does not appear to agree favorably with the examples provided in Charles Hamilton's first volume or in Emilie Caldwell Stewart's work on the subject of TR autographs.

Br. James

[Oberbootsmann]

The supposed Emil Maurice signature does not appear to agree favorably with the examples provided in Charles Hamilton's first volume or in Emilie Caldwell Stewart's work on the subject of TR autographs.

Br. James

Hi Brian.

Thanks so far. Would you mind showing examples of the other Maurice signatures?


Finally I found some Maurice signatures on the Internet. Please note how they changed over the years.

First Maurice signature is from a personal letter to Hitler:

[Oberbootsmann]

Second Maurice signature (1965):

[Oberbootsmann]

Third signature is from his Bundesrepublik Deutschland Passport (probably mid 1960s):

[Oberbootsmann]

All those scans appear on documents of a maurice estate which had been sold 3 years ago here:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/shop/Maurice/

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[Oberbootsmann]

And here are both 1925 dated signatures of Maurice together. I have to admit that they don't look very similiar.
But neither do the other ones compared with themselves.

It would be great to hear some other opinions.

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[Oberbootsmann]

Max perhaps?

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[max history]

As I said in a PM to Oberbootsmann, I have some doubts as to the authenticity of these signatures purporting to be Hitler and Emil Maurice. Earlier Hitler signatures are more difficult to authenticate and so it is always better to examine them physically before reaching a conclusion. This Hitler example is, on the face of it, an excellent copy of an early Hitler and could possibly be assessed as authentic without proper examination. There are some faults evident.
However, the Maurice signature, although very similar to known examples, throws me somewhat as the first initial has no resemblance to an "E" and cannot be mistaken as such. The surname has extremely similar characteristics to a real Maurice, but it is the first initial that throws doubt on the whole thing.
To sum up, a physical examination is necessary before a final conclusion is reached, but some doubts already exist at this stage.
Max.

[Oberbootsmann]

As I said in a PM to Oberbootsmann, I have some doubts as to the authenticity of these signatures purporting to be Hitler and Emil Maurice. Earlier Hitler signatures are more difficult to authenticate and so it is always better to examine them physically before reaching a conclusion. This Hitler example is, on the face of it, an excellent copy of an early Hitler and could possibly be assessed as authentic without proper examination. There are some faults evident.
However, the Maurice signature, although very similar to known examples, throws me somewhat as the first initial has no resemblance to an "E" and cannot be mistaken as such. The surname has extremely similar characteristics to a real Maurice, but it is the first initial that throws doubt on the whole thing.
To sum up, a physical examination is necessary before a final conclusion is reached, but some doubts already exist at this stage.
Max.

Thanks Max. I agree with you. In case that the signatures are copies, they are good copies. Especially the Hitler one.

I was also thinking long time about the first letter of Maurices' signature. IMO it's not an "e" but reminds me on a small Sütterlin "a".
Therefore I checked maurices' parents in case that one of them had written the postcard but their first names neither start with an "a".

Normally I don't buy Hitler signatures on other documents than official, contemporary documents (promotions, etc.).
In this case I almost made an exception but because of a bad gut feeling I kept hands finally off.

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