A dodgy award doc???

[muzrub]

Hi guys,

Does this doc. look right? I'm doubtful but happy to be wrong.

Also does anyone know the unit- 44 reichsgrenader???

I can't find it.

Any help would be awesome:-)

Cheers,

Jamie

[jmark]

I think it's meant to be Inf.Rgt.131 of 44. Infanterie-Division. An even bigger problem is the fact that this doc is dated 1940 but 44.Inf.Div. wasn't renamed "Reichsgrenadier" until 1943.

Jason

[muzrub]

I think it's meant to be Inf.Rgt.131 of 44. Infanterie-Division. An even bigger problem is the fact that this doc is dated 1940 but 44.Inf.Div. wasn't renamed "Reichsgrenadier" until 1943.

Jason

Hmm, thanks.

I had fears and they're confirmed.

Cheers,

Jamie.

[Simon O.]

lots more wrong with it too, the stamp for starters.

[JUNGCO]

Check the fake document section of this forum for other fake documents using the same stamp.
Jeff

[muzrub]

Thank you for everyone's help.

Luckily no money has been exchanged for this mock-up nightmare of a doc.


Cheers,

Jamie.

[F L Clemens]

If all fakes were that bad, we would be safer!

[Panzer Rob]

If all fakes were that bad, we would be safer!

Amen to that!

[muzrub]

Damn!?!?!

It appears I've been called out.

Btw the single/low bid I made was done using a mobile phone. I now no longer bid using my phone:-)

Cheers,

Jamie

[Simon O.]

Refer him to this thread. He is welcome to discuss it here.

[muzrub]

Refer him to this thread. He is welcome to discuss it here.

A great idea

I wrote the seller this email:

Hi,

Please feel free to follow the link and join the discussion about your doc. I'm sure you would like the chance to dispute everyone's findings.
This is not an ambush, or an attempt to belittle you in any way. The Wehrmacht forum is great place for you to explain the docs. authenticity. It's an open and honest forum and a good place to learn more about our hobby.

Cheers,

Jamie

[max history]

Jesus! This is a very obvious bad fake. The spelling mistakes, the incorrect information, the bad stamp, the joke signature........... Oh that all fakes were this simple to spot.
Max.

[bazildon]

131/44 DIV wound document

hi experts, especially jason - please read
44th Infantry Division (Wehrmacht)From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from German 44th Infantry Division)
Jump to: navigation, search 44. Infanterie-Division
German 44th Infantry Division


Active 1 April 1938 – 8 May 1945
Country Nazi Germany
Branch Heer
Type Division
Role Infantry
Engagements World War II
Poland 1939
France 1940
Operation Barbarossa
Second Battle of Kharkov
Summer Ofensive 1942
Stalingrad
Italy
Operation Achse
Monte Cassino


The 44th Infantry Division was formed on 1 April 1938 in Vienna. It first saw combat at the start of the war in the Invasion of Poland, and also the following May in the Battle of France.

After a 9 month period of coastal defence the division was transferred East, and on 22 July 1941 the division invaded the Soviet Union as part of Army Group South. It remained in the east after the failure of operation Barbarossa, reverting to the defensive for the winter and proved to be a baliwalk against the Soviet winter offensives near Izum and Karkov. Refurbished the division participated in the German summer offensive, and was subsequently destroyed with the 6th Army at Stalingrad in January 1943.

The division was rebuilt in Belgium, (NOT FORMED, JASON), when Hitler ordered the Stalingrad divisions should be reconstructed. By the summer of 1943 it was back up to strength and was sent to fight in Italy, where it was heavily engaged at Monte Cassino. After it withdrew up the Italian peninsular Withdrawn to refit, instead the division was sent to Hungary to oppose the Soviet advance. The division joined the efforts to recapture Budapest with the 6th SS Panzer Army, and was subsequently nearly destroyed near lake Balaton. The remnants of the division retreated into Austria, near its home staition, until the final days of the war. BARRIE

[muzrub]

Hi,

I wont make our other emails and your comments on 'experts' public Barrie. But I will post my response:

I did not portray you as a swinldler.

Everyone finds the odd fake in their collections- it is nothing to be upset about. I'm glad you joined the forum. I hope over time you'll gladly join in debates, learn and pass on what you know.
I do believe you owe me an apology for using my name in a public auction. However, whether it is recieved or not does not affect my welcoming you to the Werhmact forums.

Cheers,

Jamie

hi experts, especially jason - please read
44th Infantry Division (Wehrmacht)From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (Redirected from German 44th Infantry Division)
Jump to: navigation, search 44. Infanterie-Division
German 44th Infantry Division


Active 1 April 1938 – 8 May 1945
Country Nazi Germany
Branch Heer
Type Division
Role Infantry
Engagements World War II
Poland 1939
France 1940
Operation Barbarossa
Second Battle of Kharkov
Summer Ofensive 1942
Stalingrad
Italy
Operation Achse
Monte Cassino


The 44th Infantry Division was formed on 1 April 1938 in Vienna. It first saw combat at the start of the war in the Invasion of Poland, and also the following May in the Battle of France.

After a 9 month period of coastal defence the division was transferred East, and on 22 July 1941 the division invaded the Soviet Union as part of Army Group South. It remained in the east after the failure of operation Barbarossa, reverting to the defensive for the winter and proved to be a baliwalk against the Soviet winter offensives near Izum and Karkov. Refurbished the division participated in the German summer offensive, and was subsequently destroyed with the 6th Army at Stalingrad in January 1943.

The division was rebuilt in Belgium, (NOT FORMED, JASON), when Hitler ordered the Stalingrad divisions should be reconstructed. By the summer of 1943 it was back up to strength and was sent to fight in Italy, where it was heavily engaged at Monte Cassino. After it withdrew up the Italian peninsular Withdrawn to refit, instead the division was sent to Hungary to oppose the Soviet advance. The division joined the efforts to recapture Budapest with the 6th SS Panzer Army, and was subsequently nearly destroyed near lake Balaton. The remnants of the division retreated into Austria, near its home staition, until the final days of the war. BARRIE

[ralfsnart]

Damn Aussies.....always drinking, fighting and kicking up dust




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