This came home with an officer who was intimately involved in the Nuremberg Trials. Enjoy!
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Come on ! This is NOT Göring´s signature and handwriting - NO doubt !Comment
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Trust me it is real, just like your snotty attitude. I am not going to get in an argument over this, however, I have a lot of items from the vet that brought it home, and trust me it is real.Comment
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Ok, it is your opinion ! I see more than 5 errors in "Görings" signature, but I accept your wish and we will not discuss about. Enjoy your "Göring" autograph !Comment
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Why don't you both provide more concrete support for your different opinions??
1917-1919, tell us more about the provenance of the item from the vet, which sounds interesting info...
Weweslburg, share with us your expertise (we know you don't like to boast...)regarding the '5 errors' with examples from your extensive archive to support your definitive opinion...Comment
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Jeremy....a voice of reason. Here is a picture of the cage pass, I have edited the vets name for privacy..Comment
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signatures have always interested me,they are a very intensive study.years ago i did an experiment on my own signature,taking 10 seperate pieces of paper and signing all 10 over the course of one day,at the end of the day they varied,no 2 were exactly the same.........interesting.........daveComment
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For what it's worth, I like the Göring signature card and I disagree with Wewelsburg. It does look like Göring's 1945 handwriting.
The cage pass is obviously not for Nuremberg.....too early.....a genuine looking piece however.
Max.Comment
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Jeremy:Originally posted by Jeremy View Post
1. the letters "r" - "m" - "a" as well as the two "n"
2. the word Göring is totally wrong ! The letter "ö" even isn´t a "ö"
3. Göring NEVER wrote such an "r" - NEVER !
4. letter "n" is too round and than the following "g". I have a lot of Göring signatures but no single one has such an "g"
5. the word "Reichsmarschal" is completely wrong and not Göring´s handwriting
6. have you ever seen HOW Göring wrote numbers ? I bet you didn´t, because otherwise you would immediately know that these numbers were not written by Hermann Göring !
altogether: The signature, the word Reichsmarschall and the numbers were not written by Hermann Göring - fact !Comment
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[QUOTE=Weweslburg;5279211]Ok, it is your opinion ! I see more than 5 errors in "Görings" signature, but I accept your wish and we will not discuss about. Enjoy your "Göring" autograph lComment
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Yeah, like your the big authority on Goering.......Not! (Unless their twelve inches tall, and come in a box marked 'Not for under ten years of age).Originally posted by Weweslburg View Post
Its 100% good.Comment
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Not sure what u r on about in no. 6, Weweslburg... the simple question from me was to post something to support your opinion about the 5 errors.
Of course, if you have a lot of Goring sigs you should post some of them as I initially suggested to support your argument and specifically cover all of the points you make using examples, as what you say currently means very little...
hopefully you have some Goring examples from 1945 to share, too, for comparison.
don't u think that would be good, Obersalzburg, if he actually posted some examples to back up his opinions and added something more useful to the discussion??Comment
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Jeremy, you "always" write: if you have a lot of ...Rommels - Göring etc... post some.. WHY should I waste my time taking some shot and upload to here ? And yes, I also have Göring´s signatures as well as Streicher and by all the others during their imprisonment in Nuremberg. Jeremy, I really don´t want to offend you, but many of your comments showing me that you partly don´t have an idea as far as signatures are concerned. In one post you showed us some Rommel signatures and mention that all the other signatures by Rommel are fake. YOUR signatures are all from the Africa period ! I have more than 50 original daily orders at home which were signed by Rommel when he was Commander at the Wiener-Neustadt war academy. His style , his signatures changed from the late 30´s to the mid 40´s. I have signatures by Rommel from 1938 where you would scream: FAKE-FAKE !!! I collect autographs since I was a little boy and I am also in contact with some members of the UACC, so believe me Jeremy, I know if a signature (especially WW II ) is authentic or fake ! I often see this within three seconds. Oh yes, you now think that I am a poser and wannabe, but fact is fact and again: This autograph is not signed by Hermann Göring! You should learn to respect other opinions and not declare yourself as self appointed expert here on this website! And by the way, Jeremy: As you can see, I am a quite new member here, but during this time and because of my post against you, I already got private mails by other members who also don´t like your eternal FAKE comments. YOU are not the only one here who has knowledge.Originally posted by Jeremy View PostComment
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