Help with these photos

[mott5ranch]

We picked these up and was wondering if anyone had any other information. Thanks!

[mott5ranch]

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[Glenn2438]

Gary,

the SS-Standartenführer is the later SS-Oberführer Otto Baum, the final commander of the 16.SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Division "Reichsführer-SS".

The final photograph is of PLM winner Gerneral der Flieger Friedrich Christiansen in the uniform of the Korpsführer of the NSFK.

The Luftwaffe Oberstleutnant looks like Werner Mölders.

Glenn

[mott5ranch]

Thanks Glenn,
I wonder if the signature on the Otto Baum is original. It is obviously post war since it looks like a felt tip pen was used. The collar tabs look different as well, like they were doctored from an original photo. Didn't the SS have the runes and a death's head collar tabs?

[Martin Månsson]

Hi Gary,

The signature of Otto Baum is original, I've several letters and postcards signed by him so I can tell you for sure. Regarding the collartab, up to the rank of SS-Obersturmbannführer the SS runes were used on the right collartab, from SS-Standartenführer and above one identical oakleve tab were used on both sides.

Check this link out: http://www.skalman.nu/third-reich/mi...-collar-ss.htm

Best
Martin

[mott5ranch]

Thanks Martin!
And welcome to the forum.

[Martin Månsson]

You're welcome and many thanks, nice to be here.....

Best
Martin

[molders]

Sorry for the late reply on this post but I don't think that the tail of the plane in the photo is Werner Molders.Have a look at
http://www.clubi.ie/Jonesy/pics/victory.jpg
to see his 53rd and 55th victories being painted onto the tail of his plane.Both photos came from the album of a mechanic who was in JG 51 and the album contains many other shots of Molders.

[Gary T]

Well it defintely can't be Molders's plane as there are American kills on there...

[Mike Young]

Help with these photos

The rudder is the Fw190A (W.Nr.7334) of Oblt.Josef Wurmheller (Staffelkapitän 9./JG2). The photo was taken at Vannes in July 1943 according to the Bernd Barbas book "Planes of the Luftwaffe Fighter Aces:Volume 1".
Hope this helps
Mike

[Mike Young]

Help with photos

The pilot with Werner Mölders is Ofw.Edmund Wagner of 9./JG51, a holder of the Ritterkreuz. There is a different photograph of the same scene in the book "Jagdgeschwader 51:Eine Chronik" by Gebhard Aders and Werner Held.