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    Identity at 1938 conference

    Spotted this postcard on-line... said to be Hoffmann S.9a, titled Wahrend der Pause der Münchener Verhandlung.
    Okay, fair enough.
    But who is the guy behind Hitler with the huge glasses? I've never seen glasses on anybody like that from those times.



    This was the conference where Chamberlain and Daladier signed away the Sudetenland to the Germans.

    In the front row it looks like Kietl, Mussolini, Hitler, Göring, Hess... and somebody else on the far right.

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    Originally posted by randy@treadways View Post
    Spotted this postcard on-line... said to be Hoffmann S.9a, titled Wahrend der Pause der Münchener Verhandlung.
    Okay, fair enough.
    But who is the guy behind Hitler with the huge glasses? I've never seen glasses on anybody like that from those times.



    This was the conference where Chamberlain and Daladier signed away the Sudetenland to the Germans.

    In the front row it looks like Kietl, Mussolini, Hitler, Göring, Hess... and somebody else on the far right.
    The image is a bit small, but it looks like Morell. Don't know why he'd be there though. Possibly as this photo was taken during the second stage and that went on for hours into the night. Behind Göring is Bormann and Himmler. Might be Bodenschatz on the far right.
    Max.
    Last edited by max history; 11-30-2011, 05:38 AM.

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      #3
      I think Max is correct. It could be Dr. Morell:

      http://www.google.de/imgres?imgurl=h...1t:429,r:2,s:0


      Gerdan

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        #4
        I agree. it's Theo Morell wearing the glasses, and Bormann and Himmler also behind Göring. And I think Max is right that Morell was probably summoned to be on hand to administer stimulants to Hitler, if need be, during the late-night sessions of the meeting.

        Br. James

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          #5
          The guy on the far right- perhaps Bodenschatz- seems to be in the same uniform, and perhaps the same guy- as the person in other photos who assisted with the later document signing, turning pages, handing pens, etc. Was Bodenschatz an adjutant who would perform those kind of functions?





          At the Nürnberg Trials, Bodenschatz testified that " I retained this post as adjutant [for Göring] until the year 1938. I later became Chief of the Ministerial Bureau." One reference says that appointment came in April 1938.
          Chief of the Ministerial Bureau would seem to be a suitable position to be page-turner at an important treaty signing like this one, in September 1938.
          Last edited by randy@treadways; 11-30-2011, 11:19 AM.

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            #6
            The figure at the far right is Adjutant Schaub.

            Ramon

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              #7
              Yes, Julius Schaub is on the right in both pictures in post #5, but it's not him in the first image next to Hess.
              Max.

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                #8
                Originally posted by max history View Post
                Yes, Julius Schaub is on the right in both pictures in post #5, but it's not him in the first image next to Hess.
                Max.
                My apologies, mixing up Bodenshatz and Schaub. You guys have more experience identifying these people than I do.. . that's why I asked about the guy with glasses.
                Morrell would have been WAY down my list of names to come to mind-- but the image with the big glasses does seem to fit doesn't it? ...as well as the theory that an expected marathon working session might have produced the call to Morell 'just in case he was needed'.

                I find this kind of photo analysis interesting.
                Of course that's the infamous desk set (inkwells, etc.) that is in another thread on this board.

                I was also wondering about the curtains on the walls. In the group pictures taken in Hitler's Führerbau office that same evening, they were facing the other way and there are nothing but book shelves, etc. on the wall. Did Hitler have a corner office, with curtains over windows that spanned two directions? (a corner?)

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                  #9
                  As far as I am aware, Hitler's office served as the conference room. The office was situated above the right hand entrance to the Führerbau, facing Königsplatz. It is behind the windows opening onto the right balcony. Hitler's office did not occupy a corner position, but there was an adjoining room to the office which did. Next to his office, in the middle front of the building, was a room used for a lunch buffet and further along, above the left entrance was a lobby. These rooms were all on the first floor above the ground floor. Behind the buffet room was a large reception room used by Hitler for press conferences.
                  The meeting was in two parts, starting at noon with a recess at 3pm. The British and French withdrew to their respective hotels whilst Hitler entertained Mussolini at his Prinzregentenplatz apartment. The second session went on into the small hours of the following morning and in fact the agreement signed at 1.30am bore the date of the day before.
                  Max.

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