Are these post war signatures of Hans Baur original ?
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Stan
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Stan
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My 1980's letter from Bauer and accompanying signed photo are with the same thick blue marker. (from memory-- it's in storage so I can't check the autograph itself). I had written to him to ask about his recollections of Heinrich Hoffmann, and he wrote back. -
Looks good to me , I also have a signed photo from Hans Bauer and they look the same.Comment
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I'd also say they look okay.Comment
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Thanks to all for your opinions.
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I would love to hear what he had to say about Hoffman....Hoffman has always fascinated me for some reason.
EricOriginally posted by randy@treadways View PostComment
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He basically said that he and Hoffmann had many good drinking times together while waiting for various conferences and meetings to end. Once the meetings started concluding, Hoffmann would grab his Leica camera for the photo ops and Bauer would prepare to fly the entourage on to the next 'tour stop'.Originally posted by ValhallaMilitaria View Post
It's been about 25 years ago, but I think I also asked if he knew (in the 80's) Hoffmann's daughter Henrietta (wife of Baldur von Schirach) and whether she'd be willing to talk about her father's adventures back in those days. Bauer said yes he'd chatted with her a few times, but no she didn't want to talk about it--- apparently she never got over her anger at the victors for sentencing her husband to 20 years in Spandau prison. When Hitler promoted von Schirach from Hitler Youth leader, to be Governor of Vienna, Henrietta became defacto 'first lady of Vienna' and got used to living the high society life. Apparently she was pretty bitter the rest of her life about losing that life style.
If I recall right Henrietta died in the late 80's or early 90's, which freed up public access to the Hoffmann archives in the federal depository in Munich. As long as she was still living, researchers had to get her permission (as 'sole surviving family member') to access all that stuff, and she wasn't giving permission to *anybody* !!
I got a letter in the 80's from the archive in Munich to that effect, that I needed family permission to access the Hoffmann files. A friend tracked down Henrietta's address and I wrote her twice, but she never answered. That's when I wrote Bauer to see if he had any connections to get through to Henrietta.
Naturally, Bauer told me that more of the stories about times with Hoffmann were in his book, which he was trying to sell. Of course Bauer is now gone too...
Researchers also found out that NARA in the U.S. had at least microfiche copies of practically everything on Hoffmann that could be found in Munich, so they didn't really need much permission from Henrietta anyway. Her personal recollections would have been great to hear though.Last edited by randy@treadways; 11-29-2011, 07:15 PM.Comment
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That is a different story to my experience. The Hoffmann archive in Munich was owned by a relative who offered it for sale for a large sum of money. It was hawked around without success until it was decided to donate it to the Staatsbibliothek in Munich. I know one of the dealers the archive was offered to, but it was too much money. This version was confirmed to me by a member of staff in Munich when I visited the archive on several occasions. I assisted the archive with identification of a number of personalities during the 1990s before it had been catalogued. The archive in Munich holds quite a bit different to that at NARA and vice versa.Originally posted by randy@treadways View PostHe basically said that he and Hoffmann had many good drinking times together while waiting for various conferences and meetings to end. Once the meetings started concluding, Hoffmann would grab his Leica camera for the photo ops and Bauer would prepare to fly the entourage on to the next 'tour stop'.
It's been about 25 years ago, but I think I also asked if he knew (in the 80's) Hoffmann's daughter Henrietta (wife of Baldur von Schirach) and whether she'd be willing to talk about her father's adventures back in those days. Bauer said yes he'd chatted with her a few times, but no she didn't want to talk about it--- apparently she never got over her anger at the victors for sentencing her husband to 20 years in Spandau prison. When Hitler promoted von Schirach from Hitler Youth leader, to be Governor of Vienna, Henrietta became defacto 'first lady of Vienna' and got used to living the high society life. Apparently she was pretty bitter the rest of her life about losing that life style.
If I recall right Henrietta died in the late 80's or early 90's, which freed up public access to the Hoffmann archives in the federal depository in Munich. As long as she was still living, researchers had to get her permission (as 'sole surviving family member') to access all that stuff, and she wasn't giving permission to *anybody* !! I got a letter in the 80's from the archive in Munich to that effect, that I needed family permission to access the Hoffmann files. A friend tracked down Henrietta's address and I wrote her twice, but she never answered. That's when I wrote Bauer to see if he had any connections to get through to Henrietta.
Naturally, Bauer told me that more of the stories about times with Hoffmann were in his book, which he was trying to sell. Of course Bauer is now gone too...
Researchers also found out that NARA in the U.S. had at least microfiche copies of practically everything on Hoffmann that could be found in Munich, so they didn't really need much permission from Henrietta anyway. Her personal recollections would have been great to hear though.
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Henriette Hoffmann von Schirach died at the respectable age of 79 in 1992. She had divorced her husband, Baldur, in 1949, shortly after he began serving his sentence from the Nuremberg War Crimes Tribunal. At that time she was 36 years old and the mother of four young children. I am not aware that she ever married anyone else, and have always wondered why she took the opportunity to divorce her husband, especially so soon after his incarceration.
Some years ago I was delighted to come across a copy of Henny von Schirach's autobiography in English, "The Price of Glory," published in 1960, and hoped that it would shed some light on the background issues around her divorce. While the book was a most interesting and informing read, she made almost no reference to her divorcing her husband, and that was the one disappointment for me.
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This reminds me of the occasion at the Berghof when Henrietta von Schirach brought up the taboo subject of the treatment of the Jews in camps. There was an embarrassing silence until Hitler politely changed the subject. As I understand it, she was not invited back to the Berghof as a result of her faux pas.
I believe she was at odds with a lot of what her husband believed and this contributed to the breakdown of the marriage.
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There are excerpts from this autobiography on amazon.com, and in one section she said as a little girl and as a teenager, there were numerous occasions that 'Herr Hitler' played the piano for her at her parents's home (she was taking piano lessons at the time but was frustrated with it). She said that at one point Hitler's rendition was beautiful enough that she started to dance, but Hitler told her to stop and listen.Originally posted by Br. James View Post
This recollection sounds kind of incredulous--- I'd never before heard that Hitler played the piano at all. (not that *I'm* any kind of expert-- LOL )
Apparently Hitler took piano lessons for four months at the end of 1906, but whether that was enough to play for Henrietta years later is open to debate.Last edited by randy@treadways; 11-30-2011, 02:03 PM.Comment
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