Identy of 2 RKT's

[Jeremy]

Can anybody identify these two RKTs?

Thanks

[Jeremy]

better pic

Here is a better pic of the top RKT...

[Thomas H]

Hi Jeremy,

The first one could be Wilhelm Beier (Flugzeugführer 3./NJG 2)

Regards, Thomas

[Jeremy]

hmm

Thanks, Thomas, but I personally don't think it is... no nightfighter clasp for a start compared to a wartime Bieir I have a scan of.

Is it Walter Nowotny??

And two more pics of the bottom RKT... anyone help?

[Elwyn]

There's a Karl Beier also