Reich Leader business cards

[RKarum]

I have never heard of such a thing nor have seen anything like this. A person contacted me telling me that he has some business cards his father liberated during the war. They are of J. von Ribbentrop , his wife, Himmler and of course, Hitler. The cards are on cream colored paper but they appear white because of the flash.

Could these things be real? How can one be certain that they are? Does anyone on the Forum have an original to compare?

Would love to hear anything good or bad about these.

[RKarum]

other two cards

[HPL2008]

One thing that immediately caught my eye is the fact that "Reichskanzler" is misspelled as "Reichskanxler"....

I am afraid one needs to look no further.

Still, one more observation: Why would Anna Elisabeth von Ribbentrop's calling card have only "Frau von..." instead of her first names?

[crowback]

Cards

There was a dealer in Canada selling these not too long ago. I checked his site - no more.

[RKarum]

These cards are from a veterans that was in the OSI that was involved in the Nazi Gold corruption cases. He co-headed the "Operation Garpeck" investigation. The veterans name was Victor Peccarelli and his son is trying to sell them off.

I do see the misspelling JVR and don't understand why his wifes card was Frau and not here full first name.

I just don't know?

[Br. James]

I'm not sure how any vet could have picked up genuine calling cards from Hitler, Himmler and von Ribbentrop since the three did not share living or office space in the same building. The Himmler card also troubles me; the title 'Reichsführer-SS' was always written that way, hyphenated and with the 'SS' following the rank -- and was unique when compared to other high political leaders' titles such as 'SA-Stabschef' or 'NSKK-Korpsführer.' And the SS was so picky even to the point of having typewriters manufactured which carried the 'SS' logo flashes in their distinctive style, which causes me to wonder why any genuine calling card approved by Heinrich Himmler would not incorporate both of those peculiarities...? Any printer who wanted to curry favor with the leader of the SS would certainly have gone to any length to get the title line correct!

Br. James

[PHILBROWN]

given time these will be as real as the three prong tk,no offence to the believers

[max history]

I'm not sure how any vet could have picked up genuine calling cards from Hitler, Himmler and von Ribbentrop since the three did not share living or office space in the same building. The Himmler card also troubles me; the title 'Reichsführer-SS' was always written that way, hyphenated and with the 'SS' following the rank -- and was unique when compared to other high political leaders' titles such as 'SA-Stabschef' or 'NSKK-Korpsführer.' And the SS was so picky even to the point of having typewriters manufactured which carried the 'SS' logo flashes in their distinctive style, which causes me to wonder why any genuine calling card approved by Heinrich Himmler would not incorporate both of those peculiarities...? Any printer who wanted to curry favor with the leader of the SS would certainly have gone to any length to get the title line correct!

Br. James

You are quite right to be sceptical, but you are mistaken regarding the format of Himmler calling cards. His cards were of various designs, the earlier versions without the runic SS flashes. Cards were produced both with and without the hyphen and it is more common to see genuine cards without the hyphen.
Here is an entry from 4 years ago by Robin Lumsden on this very subject.

No.....there were several types. Early with Gothic 'S's, later with runes, some with hyphens, some without, etc. etc. Different fonts were also used. Gothic and Suetterlin were both officially discarded by the NSDAP and it's organisations (including the SS) from 1941.
Hitler and others also had many different letterheads. Some were for personal mail, and others for official mail. There's a huge variety.

In my opinion, the cards shown here in this thread are all forgeries. The von Ribbentrop and Hitler cards appear to have been produced by the same block printer using the exact same font.
Max.

[Br. James]

Thanks for the further elucidation, Max -- always happy to learn!

Br. James

[RKarum]

I too am always wanting to learn, that is one reason I love being a member to the W-A.
I will take all this information and leave the cards behind.
It is very interesting and impressive to me that what one over looks, another finds.

Thanks a bunch guys and all the best to you all. Keep up the good work.

[frankandfrank]

Its funny a faked calling card Hitlers made in China.

[Vic Pecc]

Joachim Von Ribbentrop Cards

Hello,
I am Vic Peccarelli the one with the cards that my father brought back from
WW2. They are the real deal. It is a treasure trove find and after reading all of the skeptical conclusions here it hurts. The other cards were traded from other dealers with some of the JVR cards. Did anyone ever consider that the same type set could have been used and maybe just maybe cards could have been printed at the same time or time frame from maybe a government printing shop ?
When I found the FVR card and the Hitler card online with reputable people and they actually had the SAME type set as my ORIGINAL box of cards it was confirmation enough for me.
I can honestly say that my JVR cards are real. The FVR and HH cards I have no written proof. I do have paperwork that came with the Hitler card.
I could be as skeptical as you. All I did was reach out to people on Craigslist that I thought might be interested in a small part of History. To share it with people that I thought would appreciate what I had to offer. It appears that in this day and age people would rather criticize what they don't have, than just being grateful that someone like myself is willing to part with something that is dear to them and share it with others that I sincerely thought would be interested. My father served in WW2 and Korea. His credentials for his life of work serving the public speaks volumns over the comments I have read here.
Vic Peccarelli