Ribbentrop signature

[Ojoneso]

hi guy´s,

what do you think about these 2 signatures.?
I see a few differences.
Are they original ?

Best Seb.

[Ojoneso]

No opinions?

[Br. James]

As far as I can tell from the pix, both signatures appear to conform to the penmanship of the example I have in my collection and also with known published examples. What are the documents these signatures appear on?

Br. James

[Ojoneso]

They are on large picture "gift pictures"
you mine that they are good one?

Winkler sell this twice on him's page

Sepp

[Br. James]

Thanks for your response. Since both signatures are on photos, it may be possible to further authenticate the handwriting by establishing the age of the photos themselves. After all, it is firmly established that Herr Minister von Ribbentrop certainly did not sign ANYTHING after October 16, 1946, so any photo that he may have signed could not have been produced later than that date. Are there any contributors to this thread with expertise on the photo processes used in the TR in the 30s/40s that may be helpful to this question?

Br. James

[max history]

As far as I can tell from the pix, both signatures appear to conform to the penmanship of the example I have in my collection and also with known published examples.
Br. James

I hope not. I would not want either of these signatures in my collection. I would also bet my right arm that the photographs are original Bauer photos, pre-1945.
Max.

[Ojoneso]

Hi max,

That is correct all twice are Bauer pictures.
one is on a "Cardboard" and the ohter one,
is written Bauer on the back.

The Pictures are the same.
The pictures looks good before 1945



It is Ribbentrop as a SS Gruppenführer


Best

[Br. James]

Max -- can you tell us what you don't like about these signatures?

Br. James

[max history]

Here's a genuine von Ribbentrop. You can decide for yourselves.
Max.

[Jon. H]

Again i must agree with Max. I don't like either of them, specially not the first one.

And it's not getting better by knowing they're from Winkler.

[Br. James]

Thanks for your further response, Max. Maybe it's time for me to hang up my magnifying glass, but I still don't see the difference between your example and the ones offered below. But many thanks, friend.

Br. James