Not looking good to me, Himmler and Heydrich on e-stand.

[hucks216]

And here is the other Heydrich signature in my collection on a promotion citation...

[frankandfrank]

At the request of the seller, the listing has been removed.

However, it's both relevant and important that a record of this item is kept for reference and further discussion. It will i'm certain, appear for sale again in the future.


Youssouf
As the others have said, your permission is not required in order to discuss an item, especially not one you're selling. The forum is founded on peer review, it's the healthiest and most open way. No one person or group of people has the right to decide what is good or bad.

Perhaps you can reference which Andreas Thies auction this was sold on?

Sorry, but these are cheap fakes signatures which sold by Thies! This has nothing to do with original signatures ! Ugly and bad make !

[adren]

Also why would those two men put their signature on such a lousy piece of paper......but that is my extra question.

yours friendly

Eric-Jan

This is also a good question,why would they both sign a dumb photograph with no function.

If there was a letter or an official government paper then it would make some sense but to get both signatures it would have to be an important paper.

Best Regards,

Adren

[frankandfrank]

This is also a good question,why would they both sign a dumb photograph with no function.

If there was a letter or an official government paper then it would make some sense but to get both signatures it would have to be an important paper.

Best Regards,

Adren

This is correct. The autograph on this photograph has no function!

The faker copys only the bad signatues and now it was sold in auctionshouse!

This was a 0 Cent signature photo !

[David Fettes]

I can only say that I received very insulting PMs from "Youssouf"

And I see that as a personal atack against me.

Now thats just unfair Eric-Jan, I never get insulting PMs from anybody. What have you got that I havent?

I dont even get any emails from Pawel Novak, its a worldwide conspiracy against me.

[Jon. H]

Both are bad. Thanks for sharing those superb examples hucks!

[hdmarley]

Himmler

Here is my promotion document with Himmler signature as well to compare to. The nice thing is that a Himmler signature is the most affordable of all TR signatures and a few are popping up for sale lately!!!

Cheers,

hdmarley

[hdmarley]

Ss

Close up and negative!

[Antonio Scapini]

Hucks, very very nice signature! It's really difficult to see Heydrich signature! This is a rare and superb example.

Nice also the Himmler posted by hdmarley!

[max history]

It's a great pity that the only examples of Himmler signatures shown here are all on common police promotion recommendations. These are relatively widespread types of Himmler signed items and the reason that there is a perception of Himmler's autograph now being readily available. Lately there has been a glut of these documents on the market and although Himmler's signature on anything remains collectable and still commands a reasonable price, it is signed photos, other types of documents and letters that retain higher prices. Here is one from the conclusion of a letter.
Max.

[max history]

Thank you Hucks for posting some superb authentic examples of Heydrich's signature. The link to the autograph-club that is provided by David Fettes should not be used as a definitive guide as it includes some forgeries. Heydrich's signature did go through some changes from his teenage years and during the 1930s.
Here are three further examples of Heydrich's authentic signature, from 1937, March 1938 (the same month the photo with Himmler was taken of them leaving their hotel in Vienna) and 1940.
Max.

[max history]

March 1938.

[max history]

And 1940.
Max.

[max history]

And finally one of his full signature dated 1930.
Now I've added my tuppence, it's back to forum retirement for me...........
Max.

[Eric JB]

Hi Max,

Thank you for your contribution to this Himmler - Heydrich signatures thread.

Great signatures you show us here.

yours friendly

Eric-Jan