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    SS Oath Document of Hans Weiss

    Hello all,

    I wanted to show off some photos of my latest acqusition. This is an SS Oath Document for Hans Weiss. Weiss was once the commander of the recon element of Das Reich, where he won his KC. Later he became the commander of s.SS.Pz.Abt. 102, and led the unit during the battle around Caen and operation Goodwood.

    The document is signed by Weiss and Himmler and dated 1934. I saw this document over a year ago and inqured about it, only to learn that it had sold. A little over a year later it showed up again, and I am so glad that it did. I didn't care too much for Himmler's signature, but Weiss's signture, because he was the commander of a famous Tiger unit, was a must-have for me.





    #2
    I remember this document well. Nice authentic piece. It was offered for sale for quite some time before going. Unfortunately, I think somebody had misguidedly stuck the document onto the backing card mount, vastly reducing its value. If it stays in the frame for display and the adhesive used does not eventually affect the document, it will remain as a nice piece to look at. It's just unfortunate that some people damage historical documents by treating them in such a way. Hopefully yours will continue to satisfy you. Thanks for posting it.
    Max.

    (By the way --- it's not an oath document --- more a contract of service for the SS-VT.)
    Last edited by max history; 10-23-2009, 03:17 AM.

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      #3
      Max,

      Didn't know about the adhesive as nothing was mentioned about that. I do know that I got it for much less than it was originally going for over a year ago. This seemed like a great break, but now I know why.

      I am planning to reframe the document next to a nice Trudgian print about the Battle of Hill 112 and the s.SS.Pz.Abt 102 unit, alongside alongside with the signiatures of Fey and Eggers.

      How will the glue affect the item? Is there an additional precautions that I should take?

      Brian

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        #4
        Nice piece! PM me how much you paid if you don't mind... (just curious)

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          #5
          Very nice and intresting document.I never seen a document like this.
          It looks like a contract.

          Where did you saw it the first time?

          Very nice.

          Cheers Ty

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            #6
            Brian,
            Do not attempt to remove the document from the backing card, unless you take professional advice. Depending on the adhesive used and when it was attached, it could discolour the document over a period of time and in the worst scenario, if there is acid content in the backing card, the document could break down. However, the chances of that happening are thankfully quite remote. Discolouring is more likely over a period, but keep your fingers crossed that it doesn't happen. If I were you, I'd keep it as it is.
            I have several of these SS-VT service contracts. The earlier ones were countersigned by Himmler and the later ones for the Waffen-SS were often signed by senior Waffen-SS Generals. Here is a 1940 LAH contract countersigned by Sepp Dietrich.
            Max.
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            Last edited by max history; 10-23-2009, 11:55 AM.

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              #7
              Is there any professional places that deal with the removal of items like this from glue?

              Brian

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                #8
                Even if they use laser iridium isotope magic technology, I would not risk it.




                Daniel

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                  #9
                  Originally posted by killerkatanas View Post
                  Is there any professional places that deal with the removal of items like this from glue?

                  Brian
                  Brian,
                  I should imagine that the paper has by now fully absorbed the adhesive used and removal would be too dangerous for the stability of the document. However, if you are determined, I'm sure that a historical document restoration laboratory might exist that carries out private work, but apart from the risk involved, the value of the document would not warrant the time and financial outlay which I suspect would be substantial. You are best off leaving it as it is and just admiring it on your wall.
                  Max.

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                    #10
                    And now you can add his field made DKiG : http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=393884

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