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    Michael WITTMANN autograph - Original ?

    Dear forum members!

    Here an autograph of Michael Wittmann which was recently offered to me.
    I was wondering what your opinions are as to the originality?

    Does anyone have a confirmed original on a formal, offical piece of document to compare to? And I don't mean the generic signed blank Hitler-Jungen pieces?

    These kind of signature have been going at EUR 1,000.-- a piece on recent auctions at Andreas-Thies.com (which of course has nothing to do with originality).

    Looking forward to your input!

    Thanks!
    Markus
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    #2
    Markus,
    Be very careful with Wittmann signed pieces. There are a large number of forged examples on the market, many the work of a prolific forger from Germany. I have seen some sold unwittingly as originals by respected dealers and auction houses.
    Max.

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      #3
      Other fake!

      Other signed Wittmann fake sold by Detlev Niemann !!
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        #4
        Originally posted by frankandfrank View Post
        Other signed Wittmann fake sold by Detlev Niemann !!
        Ralf, now you are telling me? I am the owner of this piece

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          #5
          Originally posted by markus View Post
          Here an autograph of Michael Wittmann which was recently offered to me.
          I was wondering what your opinions are as to the originality?
          Is that meant to be Wittmann in the photo?

          Jason
          Last edited by jmark; 01-24-2013, 06:26 PM. Reason: Fixed typo

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            #6
            Doesn't

            Doesn't feel good to me.

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              #7
              Is this a 6x9 photo taken from a photo album with a "Wittmann" signature? Aside from whether or not it is him, why would his signature be on such a photo anyway? Seems like a stretch.

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                #8
                In my opinion, both are forgeries.
                Max.

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                  #9
                  Doesn't really look like him at all
                  Collecting German award documents, other paperwork and photos relating to Norway and Finland.

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                    #10
                    not uncommon

                    suffice to say there are more than a few of those wittmann clippings (originating from the fake factory) going around including these below (I have more similar scans in my archive)... and ten more from the same source on blank clippings appeared with these prints...

                    http://www.militarygallery.com/main....p&ProdID=RT262

                    http://www.aviationarthangar.com/avarthacofrb.html
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                    Last edited by Jeremy; 01-25-2013, 11:41 AM.

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                      #11
                      I think it is fair to say that the faker(s) have unwittingly engineered a market that no longer bears any trust or confidence in Wittmann signatures. The sheer amount of clipped/clipping style signed pieces on either a blank piece of paper or with an image attached is staggering.

                      As for the photo at the start of this thread, it 'might' be Wittmann, and equally it 'might' not be. Either way, it is certainly the product of doubt in regards to the signature for sure.

                      Regards Richard.
                      Always looking for Luftwaffe Kampfflieger related document groups. In particular anything to Kampfgeschwader 2.

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