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    #61
    Originally posted by servusalle View Post
    You see the letter of Schöne ... where Siegmeier stuck a piece of Paper with data of Schöne ...

    there are quite a lot of Comments from him ... a very interesting comment was this !!
    another interesting Card was this ( Checked authentic and sold )
    on the Comment was : signed reichsparteitag 1938
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      #62
      Yes, agreed, there are some very nice genuine signatures there.
      Here is a Ramcke signed postcard.
      Max.
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        #63
        Here is a Ritter von Epp autograph.
        Max.
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          #64
          Originally posted by servusalle View Post
          The family Siegmeier ( I talked to them yesterday ) , would even go to court , to prove the honesty of their granddad collector , they still have 6 other huge Signiture Binders of the Time of bismark until 1987 th !! wher the grandpa died. They will not allow , that their integrity is placed here in the Forum by some so-Called experts !!
          Regards Werner
          Hello Werner,
          Let's get one thing straight. Nobody is accusing you or any member of the Siegmeier family of dishonesty. You are a collector and the Siegmeier grandfather was a collector. I am a collector. Unfortunately, all collectors make mistakes when purchasing autographs....nobody is infallible, including me or well known auction houses. However, we all have opinions and I am just expressing mine on the Epp and Ramcke signatures. In my opinion they are not signed by von Epp and Ramcke. They are both shaky and were not written with the definite flow of someone's natural signature. They both have all the hallmarks of signatures that have been copied to resemble the authentic autographs. It sounds as if these two autographs were acquired and sold on in the belief that they were genuine.
          As for the Reichert signed postcard. I asked upon what basis you state that this was signed by Fritz Reichert as, in my opinion, no signatures on the card appear to read Reichert. There is no suggestion that this is a forged Reichert signed card. I believe that the signature which begins with Fritz has been mistaken for that of the Fritz Reichert. Unfortunately, I do not have an example to compare it with, but I have seen his signature and from memory it was not similar to this example.
          I do understand people's reactions when the authenticity of an autograph is called into question when one believes it to be genuine, but the point of forums like this is to discuss just such things, is it not? We must all accept that we make mistakes and that there are differing opinions. Lohengrin expressed his view that the Epp autograph appeared genuine and I respect his opinion, although I disagree with it.
          Unfortunately, there are people out there who make money out of collectors like you, me and the Siegmeier grandfather, by faking signatures, but nobody is suggesting that in this case there has been any impropriety by yourself or any member of the Siegmeier family.
          Best regards,
          Max.

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            #65
            I am afraid Max is correct.

            However, Werner has (sold) in his possesion, many good originals, as Max mentioned.

            Werner is a very good fellow and I have dealt with him before.
            Great price and service.

            Werner,
            I purchased your RSD documents including the 12 Security Directive for Hitler's protection during the 1936 Olympic Games. I am still very pleased with the grouping, thank you.

            Regards

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              #66
              Originally posted by max history View Post
              Here is a Ritter von Epp autograph.
              Max.
              That document is an absolute stunner.
              The flags have that 'Hitler-drawn' look about them.

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                #67
                Originally posted by Robin Lumsden View Post
                Max.
                That document is an absolute stunner.
                The flags have that 'Hitler-drawn' look about them.
                Unfortunately, it is not part of my collection....

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                  #68
                  Originally posted by max history View Post
                  Unfortunately, it is not part of my collection....
                  A pity.

                  Looks like it was for Hitler's 'nearest and dearest' in 1933.

                  Even his personal chef (Kannenberg) seems to have signed it.

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                    #69
                    Originally posted by max history View Post
                    Hello Werner,
                    Let's get one thing straight. Nobody is accusing you or any member of the Siegmeier family of dishonesty. You are a collector and the Siegmeier grandfather was a collector. I am a collector. Unfortunately, all collectors make mistakes when purchasing autographs....nobody is infallible, including me or well known auction houses. However, we all have opinions and I am just expressing mine on the Epp and Ramcke signatures. In my opinion they are not signed by von Epp and Ramcke. They are both shaky and were not written with the definite flow of someone's natural signature. They both have all the hallmarks of signatures that have been copied to resemble the authentic autographs. It sounds as if these two autographs were acquired and sold on in the belief that they were genuine.
                    As for the Reichert signed postcard. I asked upon what basis you state that this was signed by Fritz Reichert as, in my opinion, no signatures on the card appear to read Reichert. There is no suggestion that this is a forged Reichert signed card. I believe that the signature which begins with Fritz has been mistaken for that of the Fritz Reichert. Unfortunately, I do not have an example to compare it with, but I have seen his signature and from memory it was not similar to this example.
                    I do understand people's reactions when the authenticity of an autograph is called into question when one believes it to be genuine, but the point of forums like this is to discuss just such things, is it not? We must all accept that we make mistakes and that there are differing opinions. Lohengrin expressed his view that the Epp autograph appeared genuine and I respect his opinion, although I disagree with it.
                    Unfortunately, there are people out there who make money out of collectors like you, me and the Siegmeier grandfather, by faking signatures, but nobody is suggesting that in this case there has been any impropriety by yourself or any member of the Siegmeier family.
                    Best regards,
                    Max.
                    Siegmeier NEVER purchased Signitures

                    He was in the reichstag .. there and on NSDAP Meetings he met so many big guns .. Goebbels or Göring f e he got in the Sportpalast Berlin ..

                    He just gave them a Postcard , a letter or even on just handy a piece of Paper , when he met them
                    He even had the Honor sign in Gold with certificate ( sold ) on most signitures he wrote where he got them .... some he got even wwhen the person was in a hurry ...
                    eike he met evening for a drink , where Eike wrote for him the Prayer of the SS with Signiture His last Signiture he got was hans Bauer 1978 in bauers house
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by SMV View Post
                      I am afraid Max is correct.

                      However, Werner has (sold) in his possesion, many good originals, as Max mentioned.

                      Werner is a very good fellow and I have dealt with him before.
                      Great price and service.

                      Werner,
                      I purchased your RSD documents including the 12 Security Directive for Hitler's protection during the 1936 Olympic Games. I am still very pleased with the grouping, thank you.

                      Regards
                      oooohhh long time ago ! lol

                      lease dont forget .. that people s Signiture can vary , if done in a hurry or so .. siegmeier never Bought signitures !!!
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                        #71
                        Originally posted by servusalle View Post
                        Siegmeier NEVER purchased Signitures

                        He was in the reichstag .. there and on NSDAP Meetings he met so many big guns ..

                        eike he met evening for a drink , where Eike wrote for him the Prayer of the SS with Signiture His last Signiture he got was hans Bauer 1978 in bauers house
                        Werner,
                        Was he a member of the Reichstag?
                        I am fascinated by what you have said about his evening with Eicke. Do you have any further information on that please?
                        Many thanks,
                        Max.

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                          #72
                          Originally posted by max history View Post
                          Werner,
                          Was he a member of the Reichstag?
                          I am fascinated by what you have said about his evening with Eicke. Do you have any further information on that please?
                          Many thanks,
                          Max.
                          That ddocument was checked already .. with the documents in Wiesenthal-Archiv
                          I assume that he was a member , as in the collection was his official big Membership-Pass for the Reichsparteitag 1938

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                            #73
                            Originally posted by servusalle View Post
                            That ddocument was checked already .. with the documents in Wiesenthal-Archiv
                            I assume that he was a member , as in the collection was his official big Membership-Pass for the Reichsparteitag 1938
                            Scan Eike
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                              #74
                              Originally posted by servusalle View Post
                              That ddocument was checked already .. with the documents in Wiesenthal-Archiv
                              I assume that he was a member , as in the collection was his official big Membership-Pass for the Reichsparteitag 1938
                              eike
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                                #75
                                Do you have any biographical details of Siegmeier? He sounds like an interesting character.
                                Regards,
                                Max.

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