Panzer Jäger Abt 72 grouping

[Gary T]

The reason could be that your man served in this time as a grenadier and not as
a panzerjäger in a tank....
I could sometime see such suspect awardes.

It was only in March 1944 that 72. ID got a Stug company (3./) as part of it's Pz Jg Abteilung.

Until then it's Pz Jg companies would have just been issued with towed AT guns. even after March 1944 1./ and 2./ would still have had towed ATGs.

This man served in the same company as Angel's man but was killed only days before:

http://www.wehrpass.com/thome_scans.htm

Angel - when was your man issued the IABiS? I notice he served with the Radf. Abt. 172 until July 1942. However, all soldiers of AA and Pz Jg Abteilungs should have got the GAB...but I think there was some confusion over who should have got what award among some units - i.e. Pz Jg crews in 14./ of Inf. Regt's nearly always seem to get the IABiS but sometimes don't.

PAB (iS and iB) I believe was supposed to be restricted to Panzer Division personnel but again there are exceptions.

Hi guys,

PzV, great grouping you have there! I have a few questions though as I am just getting into documents myself. Looks like the signature on the EK2 document is Mattenklott, the Div. Kommandeur, but he was not the Kommandeur in Oktober 1941, but the previous year. Looks like the commander at that time was Muller-Gebhard?

Have you identified the other signatures on the documents? It seems that I am easily able to find Divisional commanders and above, but nothing lower than that (Brigade, Regiment, or Battalion).

Thanks guys.

Tom

Here is another 72. ID group that Mattenklott has signed in 1941 (as well as 1940):

http://www.wehrpass.com/bar_scans.htm

[Angel Farré]

He received the IABiS on July 25th, 1.942, signed by Major Braake, Oakleaves winner.

Angel

[PzV]

signature

Angel, I think the signature is Baacke and not "Braake"

PzV

[Angel Farré]

Yes, his correct name is Karl Baacke, RK on June 30th, 1941 as Hauptmann and Chef 2./Grenz-Inf. Rgt. 124, later 352 Oakleaves on December 10th, 1.943 as Oberstleutnant and Kdr. Gren. Rgt. 266. He was KIA on April 1st, 1.944 as Führewr of a Kampfgruppe in the Kamenets-Podolski pocket.

Angel

[naxos]

Award pages from a Pz.Jg.Abt.72 Soldbuch

Three awards are signed by Hauptmann d.R. Otto Martens, Knight's Cross on 23.11.1941

[naxos]

DKiG on May 01, 1945 with Ausbildungs-Kompanie Panzerjägerschule Milowitz (Kampfgruppe "Schoenfeld")