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    Good LW Ehrenpokal Document?

    Does this look like a good Ehrenpokal document? I've never handled one, but I thought the facsimile Göring signature on the later ones was supposed to be centered on the form, with the signature of the Chief of the LW Personnel Department in the lower right. This also looks like the Göring signature has been faked to look like an original instead of facsimile. It has some other features of the fake document shown in François' article on the main site.

    Any opinions?

    Thanks,
    Greg
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    #2
    Greg,

    First you should read

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/hono..._documents.htm

    and

    http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/hono..._documents.htm

    after, you will start to have a good idea of what you have
    Collection : http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=807895

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      #3
      Not my area of expertise but i wouldn't touch this with a barge pole.
      And what have those 2 badges to do with it?





      Regards

      Simon
      Collecting German award documents, other paperwork and photos relating to Norway and Finland.

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        #4
        Hello ,
        this is the badest fake I ever saw ,Look at the text "schob er seinen letzten ...."
        schob means push.................
        it has to say schoß which means shoot ......
        The Göring signature is defenatly a fake .I think there is someone
        doing a document for himself but this one is a fake .
        Hopefully someone could show you a real one here .
        By the way .Heinrich Bartels was found later after war and is buried in Villip near Bonn on the same cementery as General
        Johannes Steinhoff .Bartels tombstone shows the word "Ritterkreuzträger" which is very rare in Germany

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          #5
          Hi François,

          Thanks! When I said it had features of the fake shown in your article on the main site, those Ehrenpokal document pages were what I was referring to. So IMO, it's fake.

          Simon,
          The police eagle and breast eagle don't have anything to do with the document. I don't have any of these things in hand; someone just sent me the image and asked about them.

          Thanks,
          Greg
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            #6
            Hi Uli,

            Thanks, you are right, a "b" does not substitute for an Ettzett (hope I spelled it right)!

            Greg
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              #7
              You are corrct Greg, what is good is that you understand why
              Collection : http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...d.php?t=807895

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                #8
                Also, isn't that a little late in the war to be handing out Honor Goblets??

                I thought they started the Honor Roll Clasp in July '44???

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                  #9
                  ... gee...you think he could have at least started with a fresh toner cartridge in the copier!!

                  The Sharpie marker is also a nice touch

                  Rick

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                    #10
                    the faker failed to press <i>shift</i> key when he typed <b>B</b> to imitate (bad imitation to say the least...) <b>&szlig;</b>...

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