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    #16
    Originally posted by K98_man View Post
    Yeah. It eats at me when I see some of this.
    does it eat at you when you see pics of murdered jews,poles russians and slavs that the germans exterminated,or just the dead germans?

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      #17
      Originally posted by K98_man View Post
      Understand it? Totally. But it was a mistake.
      Mistake? With all due respect, isn't that a matter of perspective?

      I'm sure those inmates that had been beaten, tortured, had their children taken from them, were separated from their loved ones only to watch them marched off to "showering stations", witnessed death in those camps each and every day, had ungodly experiments performed upon them, didn't think it was a mistake what happened to those "poor, helpless" SS Guards, WH troopers, etc.

      It's our luxury today to judge, but today isn't then is it?


      Best,

      Larry
      Last edited by Larry F.; 10-10-2007, 05:55 PM.

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        #18
        Originally posted by K98_man View Post
        Understand it? Totally. But it was a mistake.
        no it WASNT a mistake!how can you say that? have you ever seen pics of the dead jews the germans killed at dachau? the medical experiments,the altitude experiments conducted on the helpless prisoners??
        your sympathies are certainly misplaced!

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          #19
          I mean of the ones where the camp guards left and a few new Waffen-SS conscripts were defending the area. The times when US GI's were confused.

          And yes it makes me equally sad to see the photos of the Jews etc. murdered.

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            #20
            Originally posted by areilley View Post
            Torsten, I paid $10.99 including postage
            thank you for the follow up ... Cheers, Torsten.

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              #21
              close the thread, Scott has arrived...

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                #22
                Originally posted by fknorr View Post
                close the thread, Scott has arrived...
                hello to you as well francis

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                  #23
                  THE THIRD REICH then and now (Tony Le Tissier)

                  "....of the 560 guards , 30 were killed in combat , 40 bludgeoned to death by camp inmates , 122 shot where they were found and 346 lined up and machine-gunned...... "
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                  Robert
                  Attached Files

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                    #24
                    From the same book.
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                    Robert
                    Attached Files

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                      #25
                      Originally posted by K98_man View Post
                      Understand it? Totally. But it was a mistake.

                      MISTAKE! BY WHOM? WHEN THE LIBERATING TROOPS CAME IN TO DACHAU AND FOUND NOT ONLY THE TORTURED INMATES BUT THE BOXCARS FULL OF DEAD PRISONERS, REASON NO LONGER WAS A CONSIDERATION. THE GUARDS ON DUTY WHETHER THEY WERE PART OF THE PROCESS OR LAST MINUTE REPLACEMENTS PAID THE PRICE FOR THE INSANE POLICIES OF THE LEADERS OF THE 3RD REICH. I HAVE NEVER EQUATED THE AVERAGE WAFFEN S S MAN WITH THE CAMP GUARDS. THOSE WHO SERVED IN THE EXTERMINATION OF MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE DESERVED ROUGH JUSTICE. IF I WAS WITH THE 45TH WHEN THEY ENTERED DACHAU K Z, I DOUBT I WOULD HAVE ACTED ANY DIFFERENT. IT IS EASY TO BLAME THE SOLDIERS OF AN ERA GONE BY WITH CURRENT P C STANDARDS. I KNEW A MAN AND BOYHOOD NEIGHBOR OF GERMAN AMERICAN DESCENT WHO WAS THERE AND A PART OF ALL OF THIS. HE HATED HIS ANCESTORS AND NEVER FORGAVE OR FORGOT UNTIL THE DAY HE DIED.

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                        #26
                        Originally posted by Bob Coleman View Post
                        MISTAKE! BY WHOM? WHEN THE LIBERATING TROOPS CAME IN TO DACHAU AND FOUND NOT ONLY THE TORTURED INMATES BUT THE BOXCARS FULL OF DEAD PRISONERS, REASON NO LONGER WAS A CONSIDERATION. THE GUARDS ON DUTY WHETHER THEY WERE PART OF THE PROCESS OR LAST MINUTE REPLACEMENTS PAID THE PRICE FOR THE INSANE POLICIES OF THE LEADERS OF THE 3RD REICH. I HAVE NEVER EQUATED THE AVERAGE WAFFEN S S MAN WITH THE CAMP GUARDS. THOSE WHO SERVED IN THE EXTERMINATION OF MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE DESERVED ROUGH JUSTICE. IF I WAS WITH THE 45TH WHEN THEY ENTERED DACHAU K Z, I DOUBT I WOULD HAVE ACTED ANY DIFFERENT. IT IS EASY TO BLAME THE SOLDIERS OF AN ERA GONE BY WITH CURRENT P C STANDARDS. I KNEW A MAN AND BOYHOOD NEIGHBOR OF GERMAN AMERICAN DESCENT WHO WAS THERE AND A PART OF ALL OF THIS. HE HATED HIS ANCESTORS AND NEVER FORGAVE OR FORGOT UNTIL THE DAY HE DIED.
                        DonĀ“t use capitals, please. Difficult to read.

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                          #27
                          I think he is a tad angry, and rightly so.

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                            #28
                            violence should not beget violence

                            if not the 1 000 000 Iraqis killed since the American ocupation
                            would seem to give a valid reason for Iraqis to murder all the American forces

                            in cold blood and against a wall and facing a firing squad

                            I dont think anyone would say that would be understandable

                            and why not?

                            the methods are different
                            the result is the same
                            the mass murder of civilians

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                              #29
                              Things like this are going on today. talk to some of the kids serving in Iraq.
                              Steve

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                                #30
                                Originally posted by Bob Coleman View Post
                                MISTAKE! BY WHOM? WHEN THE LIBERATING TROOPS CAME IN TO DACHAU AND FOUND NOT ONLY THE TORTURED INMATES BUT THE BOXCARS FULL OF DEAD PRISONERS, REASON NO LONGER WAS A CONSIDERATION. THE GUARDS ON DUTY WHETHER THEY WERE PART OF THE PROCESS OR LAST MINUTE REPLACEMENTS PAID THE PRICE FOR THE INSANE POLICIES OF THE LEADERS OF THE 3RD REICH. I HAVE NEVER EQUATED THE AVERAGE WAFFEN S S MAN WITH THE CAMP GUARDS. THOSE WHO SERVED IN THE EXTERMINATION OF MILLIONS OF INNOCENT PEOPLE DESERVED ROUGH JUSTICE. IF I WAS WITH THE 45TH WHEN THEY ENTERED DACHAU K Z, I DOUBT I WOULD HAVE ACTED ANY DIFFERENT. IT IS EASY TO BLAME THE SOLDIERS OF AN ERA GONE BY WITH CURRENT P C STANDARDS. I KNEW A MAN AND BOYHOOD NEIGHBOR OF GERMAN AMERICAN DESCENT WHO WAS THERE AND A PART OF ALL OF THIS. HE HATED HIS ANCESTORS AND NEVER FORGAVE OR FORGOT UNTIL THE DAY HE DIED.

                                Not to argue w/the PC of today vs. the reality of the situation, but using this logic, every German soldier had the right to MURDER any American or British aircrew member for the leveling of his cities and the murder of (some say) a million innocent men, women and children by the relentless, 'round the clock bombing of their cities...which arguably did no real, lasting damage to war production.

                                Murder is murder whether done by an SS guard or "liberating" US Soldier. Firing squads against men who just happened to be there when the US soldiers arrived is still murder.

                                Let's ask the parents, wives, sons or daughters or siblings of these people who did not come home, whether the circumstances warranted their family member's deaths?

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