help with translation,thanks

[ManuelR]

I need to know the name of the place or city.
this is russia army group north 61 ID
thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! manuel

[Rick Research]

That is HIDEOUSLY BAD scribbling!!!!

Schloss auf .......... .... Bomben(treffer).

I am assuming that the last word MUST be "Bombentreffer," but the whole thing is SO bad, it is readable only by guesswork!!!

The place name looks like it MIGHT be "Grunenberg" or "...uninoberg" something like that, both versions don't even look the same & which isn't Russian at all. Maybe if you show us the PHOTO side...?

[werner geier]

dear manuel,
for sure its "bombentrichter" (bomb crater), not bombentreffer/bomb hit. the rest is puzzling. although i cant verify a double "s", it should read imho "schloss am grössenberg (???)". at least there is a castle at such a place in austria, http://www.eppenstein.steiermark.at/...00_chronik.htm
but as you are looking for a russian location, this makes no sense either.
what about showing us the front of the pics. maybe some clue is hidden there...

[Dietrich Maerz]

The 61 ID was before Leningrad in 41/42. There are several places with german names, such as Schluesselburg, Oranienburg, etc.. Maybe if someone has a detailled map of that area. ..?

To me it looks like :

Schloss aufg Grusionberg ????

(... Bombentrichter)

Dietrich

[ManuelR]

dietrich,you are absolutely right about towns
with german names in north russia , I found a book from the 61 ID I have just bought .I am sure OI will find out! thanks!!! manuel

[Chris B]

Is there a bombcrater in the photograph?

[ManuelR]

here is the foto with a big crater.sorry for being late! regards and thanks for your time!
manuel

[berlin45]

Another Partial assistance

Hi

Another word in the note is obviously "vorn". That means "vorne Bombentrichter", or in English "in the foreground - Bomb Crater"

Regards
Dirk

[Akira Takiguchi]

Good eye! I could never read it, though I thought that it could be "russ."... You're THE winner, Dirk!

[ManuelR]

thanks to all! now we are missing the city?
akira do you have a book about this div?
it must be there.thanks manuel

[Akira Takiguchi]

Three books. Actually four (I have 2 photo histories... Anybody want one? ).

[ManuelR]

I will buy it, let me know. if you have time see if you can help solve this mystery.thanks manuel

[berlin45]

"vorn(e) bombentrichter"

The reason it is so hard to distinguish as "vorn" is because the writer accidentally crossed the opening parenthesis over the word. That's why it looks like an "R", when in fact it is: "(vorn..." It was the closing parenthesis that finally clued me in.

Regards
Dirk


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