SS Award Doc Question

[CCN]

I'm probably posting this in the wrong section. I have a set of four award documents made out to an SS guy in the TK Division. One of the documents is for the silver wound badge and his unit is named SS. Pz. Gren. Div. "Tiger" "E". It sounds like an unofficial title, but does anybody have info on the designation
"Tiger" "E" being used.

[Mike C]

Hi CCN,

Seems a bit strange. A scan of the document would be helpful. Could it be for SS PG regiment Theodor Eicke (with a date after February 1943)? I would note that the TK Division was a panzer grenadier division for only about 10 months (four of which were in France)...

Cheers,

Mike

[milcollector]

I dont like the sound of it all. Without seeing pics, I would stay well clear of it.
Can you post pics ?

[CCN]

The document in question shows the award being earned 4/8/1943 and was signed on 7/9/1943. One document is for the PAB and the unit is listed as 14./SS-T. Pz. Gren. Rgt. "Theodore Eicke". It is signed by Hellmuth Becker and has a date of 3 July, 1943. There is also an Ostmedal doc which lists his unit as Stammbatterie SS.-Flak A.-u.-E.-Rgt. It is dated 17 Dec 1943. Sorry no scans yet, I'm going to have to break down and buy a better membership.

[CCN]

The document in question shows the award being earned 4/8/1943 and was signed on 7/9/1943. One document is for the PAB and the unit is listed as 14./SS-T. Pz. Gren. Rgt. "Theodore Eicke". It is signed by Hellmuth Becker and has a date of 3 July, 1943. There is also an Ostmedal doc which lists his unit as Stammbatterie SS.-Flak A.-u.-E.-Rgt. It is dated 17 Dec 1943. Sorry no scans yet, I'm going to have to break down and buy a better membership.

There is one more for the black wound badge listing his unit as Stosskomp. SS. T. Div. It is dated 28/3/42

[Simon O.]

If it's written SS. Pz. Gren. Div. "Tiger" "E" then that's sounds bad straight off the bat. TK did of course have a 15 strong Tiger schwere kompanie during Kursk but i wouldn't expect it to have been written like that. Big difference though if the WB doc was filled out by his unit or some hospital far away.

Was the 14 Kp. of 'Theodor Eicke' the flak Kp.? that would start to put a bit of sense into all these different units. Hopefully you can get scans posted, sounds intriguing.

[CCN]

Hope these will work

[CCN]

#2

[CCN]

#3

[CCN]

#4

[Simon O.]

What's the fp number on the PAB doc? Seems like 13205 or 13285 to me?

[CCN]

The last number is a bit blurred and could be a 5, but it appears to be 3. The number is 13203.

[Adrian Stevenson]

"13203" is for these units:

(Mobilmachung-1.1.1940) Regimentsstab, Nachrichten-Zug, Pionier-Zug, Panzer-Späh-Zug
und Musik-Korps SS-TK-Infanterie-Regiment 3,
(2.1.1940-27.4.1940) Regimentsstab SS-TK-Infanterie-Regiment 3,
(15.7.1942-24.1.1943) Regimentsstab SS-Infanterie-Regiment 2 SS-Panzergrenadier-Division TK,
dann Regimentsstab SS-Infanterie-Regiment 3 SS-Panzergrenadier-Division TK,
(25.1.1943-31.7.1943) Regimentsstab SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 3 SS-Panzergrenadier-Division TK,
dann Regimentsstab SS-Grenadier-Regiment 3 (Totenkopf),
(1.8.1943-23.3.1944) 7.2.1944 Regimentsstab u. Stabskompanie SS-Panzergrenadier-Regiment 6 (3. SS-Division),
(7.11.1944-Kriegsende) 9.11.1944 Regimentsstab Panzergrenadier-Regiment 6 (3. SS-Division)

Hope this is of interest?

Cheers, Ade.

[CCN]

Wow - very helpful, thanks!!

[Simon O.]

Ok, that's good news. Although that WB in silver unit designation is whacky you do see some strange things on WB docs coming from the rear area hospitals. I seems like a mistake to me, perhaps a nurse or clerk asked him his unit and they mistook Totenkopf or TK for tiger.