Post your Fake Death Card

[Guenter Braun]

Revellations:


> What do you mean by this comment. I am interested in what this means
> as I may have misunderstood you due to language translation.

How to explain in English? Hmmmm:

The death card is not only a fake, the mentioned soldier (HJ, etc.) did never exist as printed on the card: The awards and other money-making details were added by the falsifier.
If ever possible it is recommended to double check if the name, unit, history and awards fit togehter.
E.g.: Was the soldier really on board of the Bismark during the final run?


Now OK?




> This is also very interesting. So death cards originally made during WWII
> could be reprinted 20 yrs later on different paper but exactly the same
> layout as the previous one? This would make sense if a Requiem was
> being held.

Usually there are some differences:
- The swastika (*) was either removed or replaced with religious picture
- the name and address of the printer can be different
- there could be some differences in the individual wording

(*) the swastika is strictly forbidden in Germany since the end of WW2.


Guenter

[amydron]

About 5 years ago Bismarck cards hardly ever showed up, and when they did they were expensive.
I remember thinking at the time how long before the fakers latch on to these?
Now they are appearing regularly on eBay.
Suspicious or what?
RAY

[Revellations]

Come on collectors - I know there are more of you out there. I was hoping to see an example of a card that has been identified as a fake due to the person not receiving the award listed on the card (eg Knights Cross, Blood Order, DKiG etc). A famous example is the death card of SS-Oscha Sepp Grünberger. On the card it had listed he was the recipient of the Blood Order. Well it is well known that he had not won this order and therefore the death card was a fake. Can anyone show this example or any other example that falls in this category.

Cheers

Scott

[Todd Gylsen]

I don't have exactly the fake notices you are looking for. But, here are three fake FJ death notices I have just lying around. These have been identified as fakes by fellow forum members who have looked at them in person. These belonged to a friend of mine who apparently got burned by them in the past.

[Todd Gylsen]

#2.

[Todd Gylsen]

This one is made from a laser jet printer.

[Revellations]

Todd,

Thank you for your 3 examples. I am still hoping to see an example of a card that has been identified as a fake due to the person not receiving the award listed on the card (eg Knights Cross, Blood Order, DKiG etc). A famous example is the death card of SS-Oscha Sepp Grünberger. On the card it had listed he was the recipient of the Blood Order. Well it is well known that he had not won this order and therefore the death card was a fake. Can anyone show this example or any other example that falls in this category?

Cheers

Scott

[Revellations]

Anyone?

[SadGhost]

Oh nuts...

This one is made from a laser jet printer.

I have one of those cards in my posession

[Lisa Thompson]

I have one of those cards in my posession

Does it glow? Just curious..

[Phil_C]

Hey,

I am about 99.9% sure that the para DC's in posts 19, 20 and 21 were for sale on Jamie Cross's site adout 2-3 years ago, as I was going to buy them!! Very interesting to find out they are fakes.

Phil

[Revellations]

Phil C,

Well I tend to disagree with #21 being classed as a fake. I will clarify my comments. I am not saying that the actual card owned by arbeitdienst is not a fake but the one I have in my collection is not a fake. This card has been verified by not only another well known collector but also a Forsensic Scientist (Paper Specialist) who lives next to me. She has identified my card as a period piece and the printing was not modern laser printing. So it is interesting to hear this. My card does not glow in the dark under UV light either.

This is the whole reason why I started to write this book becaus eof the lack of information out there. Hopefully it will be going to print next year sometime.

Cheers

Scott