unit of officer stationed in Holland?

[NickG]

Does anybody have information on an officer who had his uniform tailored in 1941in Holland with the name T.Plumeyer?
Uniform is stripped so no idea on unit or branch...

I checked the German Volksbund and nobody with that name is listed KIA...

The only Plumeyer that I could find served in the 19 pz.Div...Plumeyer - Panzerjäger-Abteilung 19
but this unit was not in Holland in 1941...(Russian Front)

[NickG]

Is an officer with this name "Plumeyer" associated with any of these units in Amersfoort-Holland?

-SS-Polizei-Infanterie-Geschütz-Ersatz-Kompanie (1941)

-SS-Polizei-Artillerie-Ersatz-Abteilung (1941)

Trying to research a (stripped) named uniform with little clues...
But possibly a (4th SS-Division)Polizei related artillery tunic...
Would be an SS Polizei ausbildung-ersatz school staff officer who was based in Amersfoort Holland
where he had his uniform tailored in 1941.

[Ludwig]

Many years ago I had a Dutch made tunic, that once belonged to a SS-Hauptsturmführer Oelkers, and he served in the 3rd Scützenregiment (SS-Pol. Div.).
Can you please post some photos of the tunic?

[Revellations]

Many years ago I had a Dutch made tunic, that once belonged to a SS-Hauptsturmführer Oelkers, and he served in the 3rd Scützenregiment (SS-Pol. Div.).
Can you please post some photos of the tunic?

as well as SS-Unterführerschule 'Arnheim'.......

Scott

[NickG]

Can you please post some photos of the tunic?

I can show images of the tunic after its restored (in the SS section)...
Just need to know about officer Plumeyer's branch/unit info...
Any spources to resarch this?

[Revellations]

Nick,

I checked John Moore's Führerliste and no name like or exactly as this is on the list. Perhaps an Army officer (not SS).

Cheers

Scott

[NickG]

Nick,

I checked John Moore's Führerliste and no name like or exactly as this is on the list. Perhaps an Army officer (not SS).

Cheers

Scott

Thanks for the research Scott. I really appreciate it! So no T. Plumeyer in the Waffen SS officers list...
The uniform never had a breast eagle...I am thinking 4th SS-Polizei Division,based on the uniform style and tailor location...

Question: (still hanging on to the possibility its SS-Polizei Div)
in 1941 the unit was still an amalgamation of SS and Polizei personnel combined to form the Division at this time,
men and staff, so not full blown pure Waffen SS, recruited for Waffen SS service , right?

Based on that could an officer in that unit (4th Polizei ) be listed in the Polizei (SchuPo) Führerliste, as opposed to SS?
(a SchuPo Polizei member transfer to this combat unit, not an SS member, no SS flashes below the breast pocket)
Is that a possibility?

[NickG]

What about the spelling Plumeier? (no "y") in the SS-Fuhrer liste (or Polizei liste???)

[NickG]

Well I have more info from the tunic seller, obtained from the daugher of the vet.
It is most likely 4th Div after all (after transfer from Heer Feldgendarmerie).
She stated her dad went from Police to SS (police)....
Probably started his career in the civilian police got mobilized and served as hilfs feldgendarmerie in a military unit (Heer) which was common during the Blitzkrieg and later fully absorbed in Heer FG service, (not his choice). His Heer schirmmutze with orange piping also survived...(I posted it in the hat section...)
This soldier later transferred to the 4 Polizei Division (SS) but as a unterfuhrer...
I assumed fuhrer (Officer) as the uniform (no breast eagle ghost and stripped of any rank insignia) has a dagger slit.... but senior NCO's had fancy tailored uniforms as well with such attributes too... and his riding breeches surviced with leather inserts, again thinking that's officers kit...
No wonder the name is not on a fuhrerliste...it's an NCO...from the Polizei Div. Good news!
The tunic was tailored in Amersfoort and the SS polizei had an ersatz und ausbildungs unit in that town...

Abordnung zur Polizei-Division (später SS Polizei-Division) - 20.06 .40-? Artillerie Ersatz ... April 41-Verlegung nach Amersfoort / NL

My hunch appears to have been correct...but not the rank...

[NickG]

Many years ago I had a Dutch made tunic, that once belonged to a SS-Hauptsturmführer Oelkers, and he served in the 3rd Scützenregiment (SS-Pol. Div.).
Can you please post some photos of the tunic?

Here you go!
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...35#post6480235

[Tom B]

Here you go!
http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...35#post6480235

Good stuff !