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    An LW pilot KIA over England.

    I have acquired the pilot badge and papers of Oblt. Dr.Oswald Laumann from the e-stand. Here is the link to that thread http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=66035

    The papers show he was in II./SKG10 and was shot down and killed over England on March 23, 1943. The papers also include a period map of SE England marked with the location very near Strete and Slapton. My research to date shows the unit flew both the FW190/A-4 and A-5 from Schipol Airport.

    I would like to know more about his airplane. Was it the A-4 or A-5? I have a decent understanding of LW marking and paint schemes and I desire to know the markings on his plane. What was the squadron code? Can the Werke Nummer of his airplane be located? What was the paint scheme?

    If you could provide the information, or point me in the right direction for further research I would be very grateful.
    Last edited by Adam Lewis; 09-30-2004, 07:04 PM. Reason: Typo

    #2
    Well here's a newer map of the area....the area you are looking at is Devon, southwest England.I can not at the moment find him being listed as missing or killed on that day, however will dig around a little more tomorrow...seeing as it is now midnight!
    Attached Files
    Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

    Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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      #3
      Map of whereabouts in England....
      Attached Files
      Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

      Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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        #4
        Originally posted by Ian Jewison
        Map of whereabouts in England....
        Ian,
        Thanks for the geography lesson. Hardly the SE corner! (Although it IS the SE corner of my map!)

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          #5
          Originally posted by Adam Lewis
          Ian,
          Thanks for the geography lesson. Hardly the SE corner! (Although it IS the SE corner of my map!)
          Hi Adam,

          Still no luck with that name, however I have asked a couple of friends to see if they have the loss reports on him.

          Nice little group you have there....I see there is a good photo of Oberleutnant Viedebantt RKT. He received his Ritterkreuz 30.12.1942 as Oberleutnant u. Staffelkapitän with II Gruppe/Zerstörer Geschwader 1.
          My references have him as Gruppenkommandeur II/SKG from 10 17.5.1943 until July 1943.....after Laumann's death, however he must have been acting or deuputy prior to this date as clearly he is an Oberleutnant here...

          Regards, Ian
          Last edited by Ian Jewison; 10-01-2004, 04:17 AM.
          Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

          Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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            #6
            Here's a link to a FW 190 page which you may find helpful!

            http://fw190.hobbyvista.com/Index.html
            Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

            Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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              #7
              There should be something in the relevant volume of 'The Blitz: Then and Now' which i unfortunately don't have.


              BTW, slightly off topic to this date but are you aware of the wartime history of Slapton or rather Slapton Sands?
              Collecting German award documents, other paperwork and photos relating to Norway and Finland.

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                #8
                Here's a link to the village of Slapton.....very important and historical events happen there!!!!

                http://www.slapton.org/index9.htm
                Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                  #9
                  Hi Adam,

                  I can confirm that he was shot down by Flak at Strete near Dartmouth on that date. I have got in touch with the author of "Luftwaffe Fighter Bombers over Britain" who will send me some additional info.

                  If you PM me with your email I will put him touch with yourself seeing as you have his documents.

                  Regards, Ian
                  Photos/images copyright © Ian Jewison collection

                  Collecting interests: Cavalry units, 1 Kavallerie/24 Panzer Division, Stukageschwader 1

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                    #10
                    Connections

                    Originally posted by Ian Jewison
                    Here's a link to the village of Slapton.....very important and historical events happen there!!!!

                    http://www.slapton.org/index9.htm
                    Amazing! I found the section on WW2 history. I have in my collection a Mother's Award medal for her son Joseph J. Walsh. Mr Walsh was a T/3 in the US Army Corps of Engineers and died April 28 1944!! The official report says only that he died in the English Channel. He was reported MIA to his family but not KIA until 26 May when "conclusive evidence of death was received." His unit is 605th Eng Map Depot Det. The body was buried May 1 (sic!) in the Brookwood American Military Cemetery. After the war it was returned to his mother in Philadelphia.
                    Thank you for pointing out the link to Slapton.

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                      #11
                      Document

                      Originally posted by Adam Lewis
                      Amazing! I found the section on WW2 history. I have in my collection a Mother's Award medal for her son Joseph J. Walsh. Mr Walsh was a T/3 in the US Army Corps of Engineers and died April 28 1944!! The official report says only that he died in the English Channel. He was reported MIA to his family but not KIA until 26 May when "conclusive evidence of death was received." His unit is 605th Eng Map Depot Det. The body was buried May 1 (sic!) in the Brookwood American Military Cemetery. After the war it was returned to his mother in Philadelphia.
                      Thank you for pointing out the link to Slapton.
                      A burial form for Mr Walsh.

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                        #12
                        Originally posted by Adam Lewis
                        A burial form for Mr Walsh.
                        Another paper for Mr Walsh.

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by Adam Lewis
                          I have acquired the pilot badge and papers of Oblt. Dr.Oswald Laumann from the e-stand. Here is the link to that thread http://dev.wehrmacht-awards.com/foru...ad.php?t=66035

                          The papers show he was in II./SKG10 and was shot down and killed over England on March 23, 1943. The papers also include a period map of SE England marked with the location very near Strete and Slapton. My research to date shows the unit flew both the FW190/A-4 and A-5 from Schipol Airport.

                          I would like to know more about his airplane. Was it the A-4 or A-5? I have a decent understanding of LW marking and paint schemes and I desire to know the markings on his plane. What was the squadron code? Can the Werke Nummer of his airplane be located? What was the paint scheme?

                          If you could provide the information, or point me in the right direction for further research I would be very grateful.
                          Hi Adem, as far as I know there is no book on SKG10.
                          Maybe you are able to find some info and photos in the 2 books Schiphol during ww2, all units that used the airfield are in it, sort of a wardiary, many photos of crews and planes. Written in Dutch by Ab A. Jansen, who interviewed many former german pilots.
                          Your very interesting group is it worth to do furthrer research.
                          Don't have the books myself but had a look at them at a bookshop.

                          yours Eric-Jan Bakker

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                            #14
                            Originally posted by Eric JB
                            Hi Adem, as far as I know there is no book on SKG10.
                            Maybe you are able to find some info and photos in the 2 books Schiphol during ww2, all units that used the airfield are in it, sort of a wardiary, many photos of crews and planes. Written in Dutch by Ab A. Jansen, who interviewed many former german pilots.
                            Your very interesting group is it worth to do furthrer research.
                            Don't have the books myself but had a look at them at a bookshop.

                            yours Eric-Jan Bakker
                            Thank you for telling me of the books. I did a search on abebooks.com but could not find them. Do you rmember any more details about the title of the book? This is just the kind of lead I need.

                            I think it is an interesting group, too. There are photos of his family, family ancestors to 1830, and his school papers from 1921 - 1938 leading up to his University degree. Also there is a death card, eulogy, Reisepass, and Wehrpass (but no Soldbuch).

                            Cheers

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                              #15
                              Originally posted by Adam Lewis
                              Thank you for telling me of the books. I did a search on abebooks.com but could not find them. Do you rmember any more details about the title of the book? This is just the kind of lead I need.

                              I think it is an interesting group, too. There are photos of his family, family ancestors to 1830, and his school papers from 1921 - 1938 leading up to his University degree. Also there is a death card, eulogy, Reisepass, and Wehrpass (but no Soldbuch).

                              Cheers
                              Fliegerhorst Schiphol part 1-3

                              Ab A. Jansen

                              De Bataafsche Leeuw

                              Amsterdam 1998

                              Sorry not 2 but 3 books

                              Yours friendly

                              Eric-Jan Bakker

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