Who was the Ia of the 4. Panzerarmee 1944?

[erichcraciun]

Hello,

I would like to know who the Ia of the 4. Panzerarmee was in April of 1944.

Thanks in advance!

Erich Craciun

[Rick Research]

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[Simon O.]

According to the "Dienststellen, Kommandobehörden und Truppenteile des Heeres" by Wegmann and Zweng. Müller is shown as being replaced by a Georg Graf zu Castell-Castell on the 30.03.44. He is then replaced sometime in June by an Oberstleutnant Detlev von Platen.

[Ian Jewison]

According to:
"Formationsgeschichte und Stellenbesetzung 1815-1990", Teil IV, Abt. 1.
"Dienstsellen, Kommandobehörden und Truppenteile des Heeres", Band 1, 1-10
Wegmann & Zweng.

15.3.1943 Oberst Christian Müller (DK 08.07.44 as Oberst i.G. with PzAOK4)
30.3.1944 Georg Graf zu Castell-Castell (Anerkennungsurkunde 26.02.43 as Oberstleutnant u. Kdr. PzGgren.Rgt. 63...not sure if same guy as no forename recorded)
June 1944 Oberstleutnant Detlev von Platen (DK 06.05.43 as Major i.G. with 320 Inf.Div.)

However according to:
"Die deutsche Wehrmacht 1939-1945" Band 1 "Führung und Truppe"
Kurt Mehner

5.43-4.45 Oberst Klaus Müller

/Ian

[Rick Research]

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[erichcraciun]

Gentlemen!

Thank you! Allow me to tell you the background of why I am looking for this information!

When the remainder of the Tarnopol fighters broke out towards the west to meet the 9. SS and Panzerverband Friebe - 50 of these men made it up the the front lines of the 357. ID ( I am writing the divisional history of this division). The 357. was only able to save 5 of these men. The rest were pinned down and captured by the Soviets, herded into a house and the house was hit with artillery. The Ia of the 4. PZ Armee called it a "Schande" that the 357 was not able to save the men (take into consideration in March 1944 it was Priority 1 to save the men encircled at Tarnopol). The 4. Pz. Armee Ia called for the replacement of the 357. ID Karbe. Karbe was later replaced, but only in 1945 in Austria for giving up two villages without a fight. He was given command of Jgr. Rgt. 38 as "Frontbewährung."

Thank you VERY much! You are helping me fill in the holes of the divisional history!

Sincerely.

Erich Craciun

[frizz]

@ Eric

You talked about a man named Karbe, right?

Who was He, what was his full name/rank etc.???

Can you tell me? Would be nice! Thanks!

[erichcraciun]

Major i.G. Jürgen Karbe.


This is all the information that I have on him. Do you have more? Do you know something about this person?

Erich

[harmel]

Ia 4th Pz Army

Very interesting info-
Jurgen Karbe-promoted to Major 1/8/43(47)
Born-3/8/1912
Had served with 22 Inf Regt at one time.
kdt.Stb.96 Inf Div-1/9/42-aUG 1942.
1942-43 Gen Staff Trg,then March 43-Ib 96th Inf DIV.
Aug 43-i.d.Gen.St.versetzt----Qu 10th AK(20/10/43 TILL Jan 43
1/2/44-Ia LXXXIX AK
25/8/44-fuhrer reserve OKH,D.r.P3.
15/9/44-Ia 357 Inf Div.
Harmel

[erichcraciun]

Very Good Information Harmel!

Do you maybe have a Birth place????

I know he was alive after the war.

Erich

[frizz]

Major Jürgen Karbe

I found a picture, underneath was written: "Major Jürgen Karbe 1943 bei den Pferden", "Major J. Karbe 1943 at the Horses".....



I`ll do some research, I believe he was in duty for the german Bundeswehr after WW II...
CU

[erichcraciun]

Hallo!

ich bin mir ziemlich sicher, dass Karbe beim Bund war...kann ich aber nachfragen!

Erich

[erichcraciun]

If it is of interest, I can mention here that Jürgen Karbe died about 7 years ago.

Erich