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    #151
    Originally posted by 11C View Post
    Sorry I can't post photos in here, but if Tim would like to post them...........he has my permission.

    Bob


    (or send me your eMail KlauKlau through an email to my account at 53oval@com.)
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          #154
          beautiful Goblets

          Thanks for sharing!

          Regards, Thomas

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            #155
            Originally posted by Tim O. View Post
            Hi Richard

            Patzwall is not absolutely complete and does not cover the earliest awards but it is a useful (and not too expensive) reference.

            Best wishes
            Tim O
            Tim,
            Which book is the best reference book so fat about goblet? Thanks.

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              #156
              Originally posted by chen View Post
              Tim,
              Which book is the best reference book so fat about goblet? Thanks.
              Hi Chen

              Despite its flaws, I use Patzwall. I am not aware of another book that covers the whole Luftwaffe. Three of the men whose Pokal certificates I have are not listed, including one where I have the Pokal as well.

              Best wishes
              Tim O.

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                #157
                Tim,
                I have this one by Scheibert.
                What is your comment? Not as good as Patzwall's one?
                Thanks.
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                  #158
                  Originally posted by chen View Post
                  Tim,
                  I have this one by Scheibert.
                  What is your comment? Not as good as Patzwall's one?
                  Thanks.
                  Hi Chen

                  I do not know that book so cannot comment.

                  Best wishes
                  Tim O

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                    #159
                    Originally posted by chen View Post
                    Tim,
                    I have this one by Scheibert.
                    What is your comment? Not as good as Patzwall's one?
                    Thanks.
                    Although old, this is still a standard-source! Every collector I know here in Austria still has this book.

                    Best, Peter

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                      #160
                      Originally posted by peterm View Post
                      Although old, this is still a standard-source! Every collector I know here in Austria still has this book.

                      Best, Peter
                      Thanks.

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                        #161
                        Originally posted by peterm View Post
                        Although old, this is still a standard-source! Every collector I know here in Austria still has this book.

                        Best, Peter
                        Hi Peter

                        Do you know which would be the most complete listing for the Ehrenpokal?

                        Thanks
                        Tim O.

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                          #162
                          Does a complete set of Ehrenlisten announcing the recipients that were published periodically exist that is accessible?

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                            #163
                            Originally posted by Tim O. View Post
                            Hi Peter

                            Do you know which would be the most complete listing for the Ehrenpokal?

                            Thanks
                            Tim O.
                            Tim, I also only have Scheibert and Patzwall, no other books with more detailed information are known to me, sorry.

                            Best, regards, Peter

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                              #164
                              Both books only show the dates of the publication of the Ehrenpokal awarding in the Ehrenliste der Deutschen Luftwaffe. These lists were published as from September 1st, 1941 and show dates later than the actual awarding dates. The dates can differ from days, to weeks and even months. Also awardings from before September 1st, 1941 were not published.
                              There is no complete record of all Ehrenpokal awardings yet.

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                                #165
                                Hi Wilco,

                                Do you know how many really received the goblet and how they are devided between 835 and Alpacka? Or how many are rewarded till March 1942 till the time they switched to Alpacka?

                                Groet, Thomas

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